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 Post subject: 4595 jamming
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:23 pm 
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Hello everyone. I'm really impressed with this site, you all seem like such devoted owners to these guns and I want to be that way too. I was paging through others questions and comments but haven't seen my issue. I just picked up a 4595 on Friday, Saturday I put a clip through it, loaded it a second time and the gun jammed after the second shot. It wouldn't eject the unfired round either. I cleared the jam, put the magazine back in and same thing, 2 shots and jammed, wouldn't clear unfired bullet. I have noticed with that magazine and the two other magazines that I bought that after I load about 3 to 5 bullets the Orange pusher stops and below where the bullet would be seated at the top of the magazine. I tried gun oil and a dry lubricant with no help.


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 Post subject: Re: 4595 jamming
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:17 pm 
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Question,,
Are the mags you are using made by Hi-point?

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 Post subject: Re: 4595 jamming
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:37 pm 
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None of my magazines have a red/orange follower so I when to the Iberia website because I don't have anything Hi Point above 9mm. The mags at their website don't have orange "pushers" either. Must be something really new?

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 Post subject: Re: 4595 jamming
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All three are Orange hi points


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 Post subject: Re: 4595 jamming
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Somewhere at this forum there's a thread about diagnosing and tweeking the magazines. More information than you'll ever need to know on how to get them running right. Once in a while something needs adjustment, but not very often. Someone here with more experience will come along and direct you to the information. I'm sure of it!

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 Post subject: Re: 4595 jamming
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I looked but really only saw problems discussed about the 995, I read a bunch of them and I now know how to correct them but not mine. I'm really impressed by what I have seen here, looks like a great group of people!


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 Post subject: Re: 4595 jamming
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:50 pm 
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Are the mags new - or are they used?

They might need to be disassembled and cleaned.
They can get awful dirty inside.

And how about the 4595 - was it new or used?
Maybe the extractor is wore out?
It's easy to run a lot of rounds through these guns!!

I have 6 factory Hi Point mags for my JHP (and the pusher thing is orange on them) and I've run many thousands of rounds through them.
I rarely have any kind of a jam or misfeed.
That's with my JHP Pistol.

It does seem like the 9mm version has the most troubles with jams or misfeeds from what I've seen.

I hope that helps!!

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My first thought is to load the mags and let them sit for a couple weeks, this helps to relax the springs.

Second would be to look at the extractor, my JCP broke the tip off after a couple thousand rounds. There is also a spring behind the extractor so make sure the extractor is tight.

Hope this helps.


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 Post subject: Re: 4595 jamming
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I just bought the gun brand new, I took one magazine apart and inspected it, no dirt or burs in it or broken parts, I didn't take the other two apart because I found nothing wrong with the first one. I did spray them with a dry lube but it didn't change them either.


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 Post subject: Re: 4595 jamming
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:15 pm 
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First I'd do what Tolly suggested. Sometimes those fresh springs are just VERY tight. Load em full and give them a week under compression.

Then, check mag dimensions for this data...
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The part I'm puzzled by is the round that wouldn't eject. Go through this other stuff first and get that solved. Then we'll address any remaining issues! ;)

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 Post subject: Re: 4595 jamming
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I have the three cips loaded since sunday, and I was confused by it not removing the rounds either. I figure I will wwork through the first issue and maybe that is causing the second issue, just sucks having to wait to use this gun I've heard so much good about. I told a friend of mine who works at a gun store about it and he looked at me like I had 3 heads, a problem with a hi tech were the confused words coming out of his mouth.


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Afternoon truck800,
After you adjust the mag lips like this

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make sure your primer looks like this

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and NOT like this or the next round won't feed correctly. (at least they don't for me on mine)

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 Post subject: Re: 4595 jamming
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:22 pm 
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my problem isn't the feeding yet, my problem is the pushers are jamming in the magazine and then there is no tension pushing the bullets up, it doesn't make sense to me.


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 Post subject: Re: 4595 jamming
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It almost seems like my bullets are hitting the front of the magazine and the back at the same time. I have some Winchester 45 auto, 230 grain, fmj and some hand loaded with lead tips, both do it.


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Do I understand that the mag followers will stay down in the mag with no rounds in the mag? If that is the case, either side to side or front to back the followers are a tad too big for the mags... maybe had an off day casting them ... You can either get Hi Point to exchange them or get some sand paper and take a bit of plastic off of the followers until they easily move inside the mag.

Please keep us posted, we will help you figure it out if we can.

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