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 Post subject: Sunday Range Report
PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:29 pm 
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So, took my wife with me to the range today. I had my trusty C-9 with me. She used a range gun, a .38 special revolver. Being 4'11", let's just say that probably wasn't the best choice.

I shot 50 rds of WWB 115gr FMJ, yeah, I know, it's not the greatest, but the range requires you buy their ammo (It's the Olin-Winchester factor range in East Alton.) Now, the HP C-9 has always been a nice gun, but, I've always had problems with the factory sites...cataract surgery and a torn and detached retina (repaired, thanks to a fabulous retina surgeon who is also, ummm, very easy on the eyes) and being right eye dominant meant that normally, the best I could do was get about 80% in the black (six inch circle at 25 yds).

So, long story short, I experimented with left eye sighting. First few were outside of black. An older guy (who's reputed to be a very good shot) and I started chatting...after a couple of minor adjustment to my hold, put 25 straight into a 3" pattern. The change was to slightly tilt the c-9 off upright a -15 degree angle to the left (ejection port up). While it certainly improved my groupings (and felt better), my question is, is there a problem doing this with a HP? I had two stovepipes and one FTF (which subsequently shot fine on a later load).

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 Post subject: Re: Sunday Range Report
PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:36 pm 
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Tilting the gun like that is common among shooters with cross dominance (right hand/left eye, left hand/right eye). I don't know that Hi-Points have any difficulty doing this, my .45 works at any angle. :dunno:

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 Post subject: Re: Sunday Range Report
PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:00 pm 
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just was curious if that might have caused the stove pipes...thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Sunday Range Report
PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:36 am 
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I would blame it on the angle of the weapon, being direct blowback and being titled somewhat, you probably had the equivalent of a limp wrist.

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 Post subject: Re: Sunday Range Report
PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:02 am 
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Good to hear you are shooting good groups with the wrong eye.

I shot my best group ever using the wrong eye, as my dominant eye has astigmatism, and I am too cheap to pay for contacts for that; so when the sight picture got fuzzy, I switched over. Worked for me too. :thumb:

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 Post subject: Re: Sunday Range Report
PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:13 pm 
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Tilting the pistol like that may have an effect on the function, like Condition1 stated. The recoil produces a different movement on you hands that must be negated. The recoil forces your hand/wrist to pivot as if you were revving a motorcycle throttle on the handlebar. Be cognizant of this, strengthen your wrist to resist the force, and everything should work out in the end. Is your C-9 well broken in, or is it fairly new? That could have affected the function also.

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 Post subject: Re: Sunday Range Report
PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:07 pm 
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Thanks guys...my C-9 just shot it's 400th round...so it's not brand new, not sure what to call "fully broken in" on a hipoint...

My wrists are plenty strong...I know that's not a problem...between chain sawing, wrenching on Jeeps, and some weightlifting, I'm confident in my wrists.

Looking forward to continuing this little experiment.


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