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Just throw it in the lead pot to recycle the bullet. The brass will float to the surface and can be removed for further recycling.



Be sure to wear eye protection!





Maybe a full face mask would be a good idea.






























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Amp, I know what you're trying to do here...
Causing a handsome dude like me to get his face burned with molten lead...
That's even a little meaner than even you usually are... :neutral:

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Mine are 3/8" and handle everything except rifle and magnum pistol. Not sure what the hardness is.
You could weld a set together and see if the welds break after shooting it up some.

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Amp, I know what you're trying to do here...
Causing a handsome dude like me to get his face burned with molten lead...
That's even a little meaner than even you usually are... :neutral:






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Can't believe it's been a whole freakin' month since I got to go shooting!!
I think I made up for it though - I was gone for 3hrs and 45mins - The range is only 5 minutes away!!
I also went through 619 rounds... It sure didn't seem like it!!

Starting to wonder if I have a problem... If I do, it's a problem I like!!
I had a hell of a good time!! And I feel a lot better too - good, good therapy, for sure!!

I wanted to give my "spinny target contraption" a good work-out, and I did...

Here's a picture of the scene - have the target and brass catcher in place:

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Shooting distance is 30 feet - looks farther than that in the picture!!
You can also see the spiffy chunk of concrete I have sitting on one leg of my brass catcher.
Keeps it upright if a gust of wind hits it - especially if it has a bunch of brass in it - gets pretty "top heavy".

The last time I reloaded, I had 119 of the 230gr plated bullets left. So I put them in the two flat boxes I had.
And I had 500 of those hollow base 185gr plated bullets that I loaded up. I put them in 5 black plastic "Berrys Bullets" containers I had.
In this picture, I had the 230gr bullets shot up, and was starting on the 185gr:

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In the next picture, I have a splatted 230gr bullet surrounded by some splatted 185gr bullets.
I thought it was pretty neat how the hollow base 185gr bullets "extruded" a nice "nipple" right in the middle!!
I hope it shows in the picture:

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After a couple hundred rounds, I checked on how the metal clamps with the 1/4 bolt I made were holding up.
The bolt was loose on all of them!! Luckily, I had this:

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One of those el-cheapo tool kits. Thankfully, it had a 7/16 wrench and I tightened the piss out of those bolts!!
But after another 100 rounds or so, some of the clamps (but none of the bolts) were a little loose.
Everything stayed in place though!!
They were all pointing up to start with:

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So, I'll try two or maybe three thicknesses of the metal strap next time. If that doesn't work,
I'll probably buy those huge, expensive steel cable clamps. The forces at play here must be fairly
incredible!! I was sure the metal strap would hold up. I guess it did!! The spinners are still all where they belong!!!

Next, I thought I'd show a picture or two my brass catcher with a load of brass in it.
This is looking in:

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And this is the back-side:

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There is a zipper back there and all I have to do is unzip it a bit and hold a coffee can up to it and the brass
all falls right into the can. It really, really makes shooting a hell of a lot more fun!!
It really sucks crawling around in the dirt, grass and weeds, looking for your brass.
Takes all the fun out of shooting when you're always worried about where you brass is flying off to... :neutral:

I had all the ammo I brought shot up:

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And all my brass in the can - it's actually a cappuccino can - not a coffee can:

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And I still managed to let one through without a primer... Damn it!!

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And my new channel iron spinners seem to be holding up pretty well:

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And I got most of that "Pumpkin Orange" paint knocked off those 10 spinners!!

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And most of all, I just had a nice, relaxing time and just enjoyed doing some shooting on a nice cool day.
Just me and my beloved JHP.
I wish I could go every weekend, but it doesn't seem to work out that I can.
I did pretty good today - I TRY to hit a spinner with every shot - but that's easier said than done!!
3 times I did hit 9 in a row (the mag holds 9) and I don't know how many times I hit 8 out of 9 - a bunch!!
But I think these 3x6 targets are easier to hit than the 4" round ones I got rid of.

Well, I hope this wasn't too boring!! I love to go shooting, and I love to tell people about it!!
Thanks for reading!! :D

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:52 pm 
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Looks great Jason!!! Careful or I'm going to get inspired and that would be a shame. It's still too hot here lol

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Nice shooting tex. They don't allow steel at the range here or I'd make me one of them that spinning contraptions.


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Nice shooting tex. They don't allow steel at the range here or I'd make me one of them that spinning contraptions.


I sure had fun!!
Shooting steel probably is not the safest thing - no doubt about that...
When I go shooting, I wear my safety glasses from work (without the side shields)
because every so often, a little fragment of that lead bullet comes back and hits me!!

Seems like about once out of every 100 rounds, it'll happen...
Usually feels like a mosquito bite - I had it happen 4 times on this trip.
Had fragments hit me in the leg, the arm, and 2 hit my forehead!!

Is it dangerous? Probably a little. I think an eye injury would be the worst
thing that could happen. But as long as you wear eye protection, you're
pretty safe. They are just tiny little flecks...

I like shooting steel!! Not anything else I can think of that can take being shot
so many times. And it doesn't get boring. Maybe it has to do with shooting a
different target with each shot.

I've shot lots of paper targets and I still do to make sure my JHP is zeroed. I need to
do that again soon, as I've increased the powder charge and changed bullet weights.

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Mornin jasonsch,
I had the same problems as you have.
As for the bolts coming loose, I ended up drilling a hole through both sides of my re-bar and replaced the bolts with wire. That fixed that problem.

As for the lead coming back at you, I ended up contacting the man that made my swinging targets and told him that I also had lead coming back at me and said in the future he might want to put an angle on the targets so the lead would go down and not back. Not only did he do that, but he sent me 3 more targets at no cost to me. The first sets looked like this and the new design look like this. That little angle made a big difference. He sent me 3 different angles to try, The middle one work the best for sending the lead down instead of back like you can see here. So maybe if you put a little bend on them, it might help you too.
Watch the rag under the targets, Clicky. I took that one on 4-22-13.
Sometimes I feel like I shoot better now, other times I wonder,,,,

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Good Morning hobbles!!
I think you are probably on to something there hobbles. Four of my spinners a a flat 1/4" piece of steel and they are getting a bend in the middle.
They're getting so the top 1/2 is angled down and the bottom 1/2 is angled up slightly. So that is not good for sure!!

And the six new spinners I made out of a channel iron... The way I made my spinners, the channel iron version doesn't angle down as much.

And, I should quit being such a cheapskate and just but the right kind of steel like you guys did!!

But, I've got and idea how to make them tip a little more...

Thanks for the help (again) hobbles!!

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I'm not sure if freefire2 is still making them or not, but here is his info. I paid $21.50 for my set sent to my front door. I think I got these in the beginning of last year and there still holding up. The man makes or made GOOD equipment.

Please contact me at: mark16fifteen@gmail.com if you want to order.

• Set of (3)- $15.00
• Buy three sets of (3) for $40.00
• Buyer pays shipping costs. USPS flat box rate is $6.50 for up to (2) sets. Cost is $12.00 and can ship up to (5) sets at the same time.
• Will ship approximately 5 days from order.
• Approximate weight- 6 lbs. for set of (3).
• Paypal preferred but, will accept money orders.
• Shipping from Central IN

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hobbles, do you know if they are made out of AR-500 steel?
That seems to be the steel to use for targets.

I have checked into the properties of AR-500 and it's supposed to be very wear and shock resistant.
It has a yield strength of 200,000 psi and tensile strength of 225,000 psi.
Those first 4" round spinners I had were StressProof - yield strength of 100,000 psi and tensile strength of 115,000 psi.
The last 4" round spinners I had lasered out were A36 mild steel - yield strength of 36,000 psi and tensile strength of 75,000 psi.
We have some S-5 steel here - yield strength of 251,000 psi and tensile strength of 323,000 psi.

Of course there's a little more to it than that...

Most of the AR-500 target's I've seen advertised are 3/8 thick and I have been trying to get by with 1/4 thick targets to save a little weight...
too keep it more portable - I have to load that thing in the back of my suburban and unload it at the range and set it up.

I think if I would have used 3/8 thick StressProof with my 1st round targets, I'd still be shooting them. I actually cut some 1/2 thick ones to
start with, be decided they were too heavy.
The ones I actually used were more like 3/16 thick and, now that I think about it, actually held up fairly well!!

We have a warehouse with a bunch of different kinds of steel - seems like we'd have something that'd work and last on hand. :D

So, I think I'll see how well these channel iron spinners hold up. So far, they're doing pretty good.
Those last four flat 1/4 spinners that are bending in the middle, I think I'll replace them with either 3/8 or I still have the four 1/2
thick round pieces of StressProof I cut to start with. I think I'll try those 1st.

I don't have much invested except some time!!

I can't help it - I'm a cheapskate!!! :D

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Mornin jasonsch,
Sorry, I don't remember what they are made of. I know they are holding up pretty good. This is what they look like shooting a 9 at them at 21 feet, and this is what mild steel looks like after hitting it with my 50 cal smoke pole at 100 feet.

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Went out Sunday morning to the range with the changes I made on my "spinny target contraption", to see how it'll hold up.
The changes I made were:
Welded another 3x6x1/4" thick plate to the four 1/4" plate spinners that were bending in the middle.
Welded a little "support" or "brace" across the back of the 6 channel iron spinners I have. 1 across the top and 1 across bottom. They legs of the channel were "spreading apart"...
Used 5 thicknesses of that "strap-iron" I had on each end of the frame as a clamp, to hold the spinners in place.

Got the Target set up and the spinners
all painted "Pumpkin Orange":

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Got my beloved JHP and ammo out and brass catcher set up too:

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317 shots later, everything seemed to hold up very well!!
Got a lot of the paint removed:

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Easy to tell which spinners are a flat plate and which are the channel iron in the above picture.
a couple more - a 1/4" plate spinner

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A shot of the backside ot it.
And the spinners had no deformation that I could tell and clamps stayed tight!! Yea!!

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Shot up all the ammo I brought:

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And generally had a hell of a good time!! :great:

This is a picture of the underside of the barrel end of by beloved JHP:

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My pistol looked like this the last time I went shooting too. Last time, I shot 600+ rounds and I had to clean
the yellow mark off the front sight after about 400 rounds, because it covered it up - I couldn't even see it anymore!!
The increased powder charge really makes the outside of the gun dirty around the barrel end.
It cleans up really easy - just thought I show you guys to see if you have the same kind of thing happen.

I think I may have possibly achieved my goal here!! :D
The spinny target contraption suffered no damage this shooting session.
It is sitting in the back of my suburban, ready-to-go for the next trip to the range!!

That's what I was hoping to achieve!!
Several spinning targets on a frame, that was portable, easy to set up, rugged, and cheap!!

As usual, I had a ton of fun!! I feel a lot better and am ready to take on another week at work.
Shooting is just good therapy for me!! :great:
Hope you guys don't mind my sharing with you - always fun to tell somebody what I've been up to!! :D

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I enjoy reading about your adventures.

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