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Author:  Spongemonkey [ Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  1895 Nagant Carbine?

Found this elsewhere and I figured I would share it here. Carbine based on the 1895 Nagant pistol. Dont know if many were made, a proof of design concept, or just a "creative" experiment. The link and video is in Russian and unfortunately I can not translate.
http://warbook.info/item/nagan-karabin- ... gory_id=56

Author:  Spongemonkey [ Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 1895 Nagant Carbine?

Google translate:

Country: Russia
Year of Foundation: 1900th
Year of manufacture: 1911-1914
Category: Rifles , Revolvers
Description Nagan-Karabin. "Engineering-Edge" carbine.
Nagan-Karabin / "Frontier-Engineering Karbin"
A selection of photos from the Engineering and Border Carbine

The long-barrel carbine was developed in the early 1900s by the order of the Main Artillery Directorate. The appearance of the revolver-carbine was associated with the fashion of the time when the carbine pistols were in vogue, but the desire to have a universal weapon that could replace two types of weapons-the military's dream. As well, the new Nagan-carbine was to expand its functionality and partially replace the rifle with the ability to target fire to 100 meters. The first carbines, created on the basis of the revolver Nagan M1895 with an elongated trunk up to 300-400 mm, are not removable butt. The new Nagan-Karabin was manufactured from 1911 to 1914 for a separate body of the border guards of the Tsarist Army. Since the Nagant-Revolver was created for the border guards, it was from here that it became known as the " Frontier " carbine. Some " Edge " carbines had a wooden forehead for convenience.
The revolver-carbine had a self-cocking percussion mechanism. For shooting from the Nagan-carbine used cartridges 7.62h39 mm.

Photo of the Border Carbine

Border carbine based on revolver Nagan

Approximately at the same time, another model of a revolver with a barrel length of 200 mm and a removable butt for the lower ranks of technical troops was created at the Tula Arms Factory: machine gunners, sappers, telegraph operators, signalmen). This model of the revolver-carbine was nicknamed the " Engineering " carbine.

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Stock Foto Engineer's carbine

Engineering carbine based on revolver Nagan

Both models were produced in small print runs. These models were unsuccessful in practical application, since they had a low killer effect due to a revolver bullet when firing more than 50 meters. Large dimensions (700 mm) for carrying as a revolver, and uncomfortable reloading during combat reduced the combat rate of the fighter So after shooting 7 cartridges the fighter had to recharge the drum poking into each sleeve with a special pin to pull the sleeve. After pulling out the cartridges one had to charge the drum one cartridge at a time.
The army refused to accept the "Pogranichny" and "Engineering" carbines because of their poor practicality as a universal weapon that could replace a rifle and a revolver (pistol). At the moment there are only 4 Nagan-Karabin in Russia.

Characteristics of Nagan-Karabin
Number of shots 7 in the drum
Barrel diameter 7.62x32 mm
Combat rate of fire 7 cartridges in 15-20 seconds
Sighting range 100 meters
The maximum range of fire 700 meters
Initial departure speed no data
Power no data
Automation platoon drum
The weight no data
Dimensions no data

Author:  Ex_ISP [ Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 1895 Nagant Carbine?

Now that is one I would like to have!

Author:  waltham41 [ Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1895 Nagant Carbine?

Very cool. I have two of the revolvers and didn't know the carbine existed. Thanks for posting that sponge.

Very interesting round, and very challenging to reload for, at least for me.

Author:  moona11 [ Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:25 pm ]
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I only have 1 and a pile of brass to try and reload.

Author:  waltham41 [ Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:19 pm ]
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moona11 wrote:
I only have 1 and a pile of brass to try and reload.

The tricky part is getting the projectile to stay where you want it down in the casing and get that crimp above it I ruined about 9 cases before I got my press set where it needed to be.

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