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Whoops - I got distracted Tolly's picture thing!! :mdr:
And Tolly - I think you're the "best" kind of guy...
overweight, with a job, very talented, likes guns, lives in the frozen north :thinkin: Like me!! (-:

So - I was going to do my "Range Report" so I"ll do it here!!

Despite it being 6° (above zero) It was a bright and a not-quite as-windy-as-usual day yesterday morning, I took my 4595 to the range with the open sights.

AND

It shoots freakin' great!!!
Every bit as good as it did the 1st time I took it out.

I took it to the pistol range and we have 2 types of steel targets:

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14 targets - 8 that spin and 6 that fall over backwards

And at 30 yards (30 long steps anyway) after I got the sights adjusted right...
I hit every single one with one shot each - Twice!! :great:

I was leaning on the hood of my suburban with my sandbags though!! :mrgreen:
The point being it is shooting accurately again.

The spinners were sure whacked with a little bit more "authority" than with my pistol.

Another cool thing - there were 2 pumpkins there...
You can see them on the ground in the picture above in the snow between the targets
Old and pretty flattened out and probably shot a million times each.

The 1st one I shot must have hit it just right - that sucker launched up in the air about 10 feet!!
Landed on the hill behind them and rolled part way back down.
The 2nd pumpkin did too but not as dramatically - It only went a couple feet up in the air... But still pretty cool!! :great:
Big bullets are fun!!

And that crappily made compensator with the .650+ sized hole in the end - Well it has a sound that I like!!
It's hard to describe - It sounds like it's a bigger gun - kinda like in the movies on tv. :sniper2:

So the accuracy is back to "normal" with this 4595 - no more bullets flying everywhere.

I also went over to the rifle range with it and had a blast shooting it a 100 and 200 yards!! And even 300 a little.
I tried to hit one of the steel spinners we have at 300 yards but it was basically impossible with open sights - but fun trying!!!

I'm positive I could hit a man-sized target at a 100 yards, no problem, with the stock peep sights.
I didn't have any targets with me but we have the mounds of dirt behind the targets - and they had snow on them.
I'd aim at a small spot where the dirt was showing and I could clearly see where the bullets impacted below.
They'd hit the snow and clearly expose the dirt underneath - Natures "Shoot'n'See" targets I guess!!

Same thing at 200 yards!! pull the trigger -BANG! - and wait just a 1/2 second and poof!! A new dark spot on the 200 yard dirt pile!!

We have a "bullet catcher" at a 100, 200 and 300 yard targets - a 2' x 3' steel box with a replaceable thick rubber front for targets.
And when I shot them I was surprised at how loud the "THHWACK" sound it makes!!
Big bullets are fun!!

Speaking of "catchers"...

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That brass catcher I got for my AR sure works good for the 4595 too!

This is how a good range report for me ends up:

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With a blurry picture of a bunch of brass in my brass cleaning machine... :neutral:

I like the open sights - but I think I'd have a lot more fun with the scope on it.

So that's what I'm gonna do next - put the scope back on it and I might try shooting some targets with it again.

Thanks for reading!!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:01 pm 
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I just got one from hipoint. Will take a close look to see what it looks like.


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Did you get a chance to look the compensator you got??

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Your right Jason, that does sound kind of dirty. I don't know how I didn't catch it. Maybe because my mind isn't thinking that way since it's going down to single digits tonight. I get that it's only February, but old man winter has been toying with us this year. 10° then 40° then 5 then 50. Give me some steady temps already.
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Ex - as usual - the northern folks here at HPT wish you would just SHUT THE HELL UP about your AZ weather... Thank You. :lol:

Anyway - I put the scope back on the 4595 and went to the range Sunday morning.
There was a nice 5-10 mph breeze and it was a balmy 8° or 9° and I froze my ass off.. shut-up Ex!! :neutral:

I did set up some targets at 50 yards and a 100 yards and the results were... well you'll see!!

Lets start at the beginning...
I almost didn't want to remove the open sights as it seemed like they were working pretty good.
But, I did put the 4-12x40 scope back on.
I left the front sight on it this time - just in case the scope has to come back off.

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And - Since it's so cold (shut up Ex!!) I load all the mags I have before I go to the range.
And this is my last bunch of 45 ACP ammo - :wow:

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That's about another 2 or 3 trips to the range... Then it'll be reload time!!

Also - some of those new mags don't work so smooth, so I put a little graphite on the inside of them:

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And it seemed to help some of them a lot!! :thumb:

This is one of the 2 targets I had at 50 yards.
It was the one I used to get the scope adjusted where I wanted it to be.

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It shot way left - I over adjusted and it shot way right and when I got it centered, i adjusted it to hit about 4 to 4-1/2" high.
The 3 hits below and a little left of the orange dot is where I aimed at the bottom of the paper.
It seemed to be working OK I guess - I was a little uncertain since I just put the scope back on...

This next target is a full 9 round mag where I aimed at the bullseye and it was hitting high like I wanted it to.

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That is NOT what I would consider a good group - maybe it was from the all the shivering in the freezing cold. (shut up Ex!!)
But I did shoot at a couple of other things at 50 yards and I did notice that occasionally we had a pretty far off miss...
And I was pretty sure I had a good hold!!

So I shot at a spot on the dirt bank by the 100 yard target and it took as couple more clicks up to get it zeroed.

As I shot at this spot, I could plainly see the impact of the bullet.
And I'd have 2 or 3 hit real close to the point of aim...
Then one would be 6 feet low and 3 feet right...
or 6 feet high and 3 feet left...
Then a couple more would be close to the point of aim - and the next 3 or 4 would be wildly off target - some not even hitting the pile of dirt at all!! :shock:

So :huh: is going on here??

Well this is what I think - and you fellers can tell me what you think too...

All this ammo is 230gr plated bullets - Rainier soft lead plated bullets.
They seem to shoot just fine in my JHP pistol.

But - I think it's the bullets.

The longer barrel of the 4595 might be either spinning them too fast or not enough - or the velocity is faster and destabilizes them.
And I think when you shoot a plated bullet - that plating gets rubbed off by the rifling and then literally flakes off.
I've seen it with bullets I've recovered from shooting my JHP.

I can find out by reloading some of the FMJ bullets I just go in last week.

If it shoot's a lot better - it's the bullet!!
If it doesn't shoot any better I'll try some factory ammo.
If it still shoots crappy, I'll have to contact mom and ask some questions.

If it ends up with me shipping my 4595 I will politely demand they use UPS or USPS and not Fed-Ex when the send it back!!

And - this happened while at the range:

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Now there's your stovepipe!!! :mrgreen:

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Good range report :great:
Did I mention it was 62 here yesterday?
43 today, 41 tomorrow, 64 on Thursday, and 70 on Friday. then highs in the 50s for a few days.
I have to admit, for this time of year, it's pretty mild.

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Take a pair of those expensive calipers and measure the diameter of your reloads and compare it to more expensive factory ammo. If the reloads are a couple thousandths smaller, that could be the problem. Also, I've seen 45 boat tails for sale which I hear is better for keeping a tighter spiral on the projectile. Just get the grouping a little tighter and you've got one hell of a woodchuck gun.

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Good range report :great:
Did I mention it was 62 here yesterday?
43 today, 41 tomorrow, 64 on Thursday, and 70 on Friday. then highs in the 50s for a few days.
I have to admit, for this time of year, it's pretty mild.

Thank You for the Range Report Compliment!! (-:

But with the temperature thing - You have GOT to be kidding me...
That is NOT fair!! )-:

I'm going to burn a "Rainbow Flag" in protest of this outrageous distribution of warmth!!

You're starting to get up in the "Ex Range" there with freakin' 62°....

We have 13° with a "Real Feel" of -1°
Been awhile since I've had a "Real Feel"...

But the good news is we might get up into the 40's by Friday!! After it gets done snowing... :neutral:

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Take a pair of those expensive calipers and measure the diameter of your reloads and compare it to more expensive factory ammo. If the reloads are a couple thousandths smaller, that could be the problem. Also, I've seen 45 boat tails for sale which I hear is better for keeping a tighter spiral on the projectile. Just get the grouping a little tighter and you've got one hell of a woodchuck gun.

George - I will do that when I get a chance!
And 45 cal. boat-tails would be something to try for sure - I haven't heard of them before!!
I'm going to look them up. :thumb:

I suspect they might be a rifle bullet of some kind... :thinkin:

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If it makes you feel better, it was 41 when I left for work, and it's 27 now, with a "feels like" of 21 :(

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I'm with Jason, keep your temps, I'll stick with our 23° and a real feel of 3°.

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Missouri today...74 degrees.

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I'm with Jason, keep your temps, I'll stick with our 23° and a real feel of 3°.

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Missouri today...74 degrees.


Isn't it just like Mo to taunt us poor people in the frozen tundra just one more time?? :(
But that's why we like him!! (-:

I looked into the 45 cal boat-tail bullets and found this on gunloads - written by Robert R. Sauter (AKA Bullet Bob...)
He apparently owned a company called "Northwest Custom Projectile" and they made a 300gr for the 45acp.
Sadly - it looks like the Northwest Custom Projectile company went "tits-up" a while back.
The article is dated October 2014 and has had a whopping 738 views!!

And the other bullets mentioned in the below write-up aren't made anymore. The 45 cal. Hornady XTP and SST

But a 300gr bullet in a 45acp sound kinda interesting!!
Maybe I should buy some .452 diameter brass and just make my boat-tail bullets...
I'm related to both CNC lathe operators at work... :thinkin:

Here's the article:

http://gunloads.com/content.php?r=404-B ... un-Bullets

So I'll look a little more - But I don't think I'll have much luck finding one of these fat short bullets in a boat-tail...

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Not to taunt, but it's to be 64 here today and 71 tomorrow :mrgreen:

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I checked Accurate mold. They have a million molds for casting every conceivable bullet...But no boat tail 45 ACP. I imagine it would look like a little football. I thought it would be easier to cast em instead of trying to chuck a 45 to chamfer the backside. I still think variants in bullet diameter might be messing with accuracy.

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