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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:29 pm 
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Havent been on here in a long time to update, and I havent even had a chance to look at the project, Been super busy with the shop. We have avCNC machine shop that I am Head CNC/ Foreman. I built a 5x10 CNC plasma table in the last few months, Then as soon as I got finished with that we purchased a laser engraver/cutter, So I have been busy setting that up. and to top it all off Me and my wife just had our 3rd Child the beginning of Feb, so my spare time is all gone to hell lately. Vrez, If you want to build one, by all means, I am just trying to get my gun better. There are more than one way to skin a cat. Im just trying one of them..

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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:04 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:04 pm 
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WOW I think these are going to be big if someone can get them to work right can get them to work right. I might show this to my dad and get a project going next time I'm in Miami.

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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:12 pm 
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Congrats on the new baby and all the good work twicecustom. ;)

When you get all the bugs worked out PLEASE let us know so we can all copy you and have our own 72 round toys! ;)

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:roflol: :funny: You'll void your warraty" "you'll void your warranty" :laugh: :roflol:

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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:25 pm 
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:roflol: :funny: You'll void your warraty" "you'll void your warranty" :laugh: :roflol:


:funny:
Now THAT is funny!

I just got 2, 15 round, new generation Promags for $15 each, because they will "void the warranty"... :thumb:

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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
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Is there anyway to void the warranty on a hi point???

other than filling the barrel with explosive and blocking it with a bolt.

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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:34 pm 
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They (HP) did say a while ago that they were going to void the warranty due to after market mag damage.
After market more than likely is code for ProMag since they are basically the only after market mag out there.
Not exactly sure what damage they were causing on the new TS's, but apparantly it was enough of an issue to make a statement about it. :?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:21 pm 
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i built a couple fo these as prototypes to see if it was possible. i had two working prototypes that fed reasonably well, but the problem i ran into, is when loaded, the spring force needed to push all those rounds out of the mag, would warp the feedlips of the stock mag body so far it wouldnt feed right when fully loaded. i didnt have problems with the weld point at all, after i used 7018 steel rod to over weld my starting tack welds. also my 995 had a tendency to let the mag drop to far to feed right because of the weight and i had to use a large o ring attached to a clip i made to act as a suspention system to carry the weight. i spent probably 50 or 60 hours of labor and 200+$ in materials and ended up with a halfass mag that only fed about 20 rounds right before jamming and was problematic at best. i sold all of my prototypes to a user on the HPFF years ago.

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What we need is someone that works in polymer..... a plastic 30 rd drum would be the way to go... not too heavy or bulky :)

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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:47 am 
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I was wondering if the weight issue would be just that, an issue. :?

Something tells me even if it was polymer the weight would be an issue if the mag catch size isn't addressed.
It's been my observation that the HP mag catch holes are pretty loose fitting. So any weight or pulling of the mag can cause misalignment of the feed lips internally.

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i built a couple fo these as prototypes to see if it was possible. i had two working prototypes that fed reasonably well, but the problem i ran into, is when loaded, the spring force needed to push all those rounds out of the mag, would warp the feedlips of the stock mag body so far it wouldnt feed right when fully loaded. i didnt have problems with the weld point at all, after i used 7018 steel rod to over weld my starting tack welds. also my 995 had a tendency to let the mag drop to far to feed right because of the weight and i had to use a large o ring attached to a clip i made to act as a suspention system to carry the weight. i spent probably 50 or 60 hours of labor and 200+$ in materials and ended up with a halfass mag that only fed about 20 rounds right before jamming and was problematic at best. i sold all of my prototypes to a user on the HPFF years ago.

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Hey SW! Which HPFF'er (heifer) bought that? :roflol:


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Hmmm, an occultist. Raising the dead. :good one:

Most of these folks haven't posted here in years. Some lurk but that's about it. Still, it's an idea worth pursuing if one has the time. My suggestion for the weld metal fatigue is TIG it. Everything else is to general of a heat. Other than that..no suggestions.

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Some form of a supplemental support system for the weight makes sense...
We have a wave of 1911 mag experimentation going on at HPFF right now,
people using the new Korean Drums (28rd, 45 ACP) which is a nice number :mrgreen:
Those might even have a "too stiff" spring for the HP Carbine bolt assembly
but it seems to work relatively well in the 4595. Thingmeister got 2 mags
full to run, had a minor misfeed on round 5 of Magazine #1 in his video.

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