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 Post subject: 72 rounds!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:52 pm 
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Here is a project I was working on before I got my AR... I thought to my self, 10rds sucks, I know you can get 15, but wouldnt 72 be wayyy better? :doublegun: .. So Here are a couple quick pics, I have a couple tweaks to do yet, but its a start and I have shot a full drum from it. I gotta get back to work on it as I have 2 more drums to convert when I get all the bugs worked out.
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The gun with the mag in it,
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Heres what I started with
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Heres the drum loaded with 72rds so you get the idea.

Let me know what you think!

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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:15 pm 
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Interesting!
So did you join an HP mag to a drum, or what? Come on let us know! :yes2:

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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:22 pm 
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Welcome! I know it has been attempted before, but for various reasons no one has ever made one that worked worth a darn......

If you could make those that worked good, it would not surprise me if people didnt want a couple of them :)

Keep us informed will ya?

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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:36 pm 
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Its a suomi drum, they are cheap, and simple in design and operation. I had to cut the hipoint magazine and make a gradual radius with it so the ammo would transition from the drum to the magazine ok. It has its hiccups but just another couple hours with it and it should be good. I had to make a hard rubber follower to push the last shells up the magwell. I have a C9 that I have over 10k rounds through it. I got this a little over a year ago and realy enjoy shooting it. Low recoil and fairly accurate with the red dot. Its fun shooting bottles in the gravel pit.
I am planning on conversion kits only if I get them to run 100%. I dont want anything out there that wont work all the time. Plus I have like 73298 irons in the fire, so my free time to mess with this isnt as much as I would like it to be.

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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:40 pm 
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Pretty cool!

How are you attaching the drum to the mag? It looks removable?

And do you load from the mag, or just open up the drum?

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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
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nope, its welded. The suomi drum is neat, you pull the cover off, then wind it up and load it with the cover off, the thing in the center is a button with a cog on it, so when you wind it, it stores the energy, then when you put the cover on it releases the cog and lets the spring do its job.

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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
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Looking forward to hearing more about this as you get time to work on it.

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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:54 am 
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Very interesting.


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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
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VERY COOL! :thumb:
I love garage ingenuity like this!

How much does one of those drums cost on average?

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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
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ape the drums are pretty cheap, they are the drums that fit the suomi submachinegun

http://www.centerfiresystems.com/m31drum.aspx

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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
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NICE! Now that's a price I like to see for doing some tinkering! :twisted:
I think it's time for Ape to buy a couple of drums and start modding! :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
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All I know is from what I have read over the years, but the weak point seems to be the weld between the drum and the HP mag. The weld holds, but the mag breaks right at the weld, and bullets come out of the drum all over the place.

I think the solution is someone that knows how to temper metal and can quench the mag in oil or something after welding to keep the metal strong. That is just a guess on my part though.

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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:17 am 
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Well I wont know till I give it a try I guess? ;) :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:37 pm 
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Twice, I think you're going to be very popular if you get that working. I've read forum posts where they blast "it cannot be done, don't ask etc."

Good luck to you, and keep us posted; pics, video's, personal invite bbq's to shoot this thing :)

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 Post subject: Re: 72 rounds!
PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:00 pm 
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I like the idea. I could show the pics to my machinist at work and see what he thinks about the mag breaking at the weld, if you don't mind. I don't want to hijack your idea, just help out. Twicecustom, let me know if you want me to pursue this with him.

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