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Pick a .380 - P3AT Kel-Tec or the Glock 42
Kel-Tec P3AT 29%  29%  [ 4 ]
Glock 42 29%  29%  [ 4 ]
Other 43%  43%  [ 6 ]
Total votes : 14
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 Post subject: .380 Comparison
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I some-how have ended up with a couple different .380's on hand.
The Kel-Tec P3AT and a Glock 42.
I've been kinda-sorta thinking about keeping one for myself.

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That Kel-Tec is one little pistol!! Definitely would be easier to conceal.
But the little Glock is pretty cool too!! It's the new "Baby Glock" for sure and popular as hell.

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The sights are pretty much nonexistent on the Kel-Tec, but it isn't made for target shooting either.
The Glock has pretty good sights like the larger Glocks.

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The barrel on the Kel-Tec is unbelievably thin!! Look like a piece of 3/8" conduit!!
You can tell it has a little thinner wall thickness than the Glock.
There is a reason the Kel-Tec weighs only 8.3 oz.

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For me - when it comes right down to it - I'd have to go with the Kel-Tec.
Simply because of the size. I like to carry my pistol in my pocket - and the Glock is just a little too big.
I like that the Kel-Tec is a DA pistol too. I know the Glock has it's "safe action" but I think I'd feel safer
carrying with one in the chamber and have to pull the trigger through a cycle to make it fire.
But the Glock is pretty cool too!! Maybe I can give the Glock to my wife. She'd have room for it in her purse.
And I can keep the Kel-Tec for myself - and bankrupt my gun business in the process!!

So which one would you choose??

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 Post subject: Re: .380 Comparison
PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:46 am 
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I would go with the KelTec. A friend of mine has the Glock and isn't happy with it. He wants to trade it to me but I don't like it, just doesn't feel right. I also like something a little bigger caliber like the Glock 27 or my 1911.

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I've grown to love my Glock, a 3rd gen G23 (.40SW, 10rd mags). On a good day, I can put 2 good hits on each of 5 center mass targets, from 3 to 10 yards in a 90 degree arc in about 4 seconds. It is my go to carry when concealment is not an issue.

I also really like my Kel-Tec P-11 (9mm, 10rd mags). On a good day it takes me over 8 seconds to accomplish the same results. The long, stiff DA trigger is the reason, it sucks. Sights don't really matter because I only use the front anyway. I carry it when concealment is an issue, and at home due to the trigger. At home, the pistol is out of the holster quite a bit and I don't want to have to look at it every time I pick it up to make sure I don't touch the trigger by accident. To me, the trade off of speed/accuracy is worth it to keep from having a ND.

I would consider a Glock in a purse very dangerous unless it was in condition 3, but that's probably how you meant she could carry it.

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I voted Kel Tec because I have one.
Nice little pocket gun
Haven't fondled the Glock

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I consider to Glock to be more reliable than Keltec. Have seen many more Keltecs blow than Glocks. But, there is a lot to be said for second strike capability on a possible dud round.
And I agree... to purse or pocket carry with the Glock, I wouldn't have one in the pipe.

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 Post subject: Re: .380 Comparison
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Ex the P3AT does not have the second strike capability... if you have a dud you have to rack the slide just like you would have to on the Glock.

the Keltec P11 is a hidden hammer pistol also and it does have the second strike capability

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Ex_ISP wrote:
I consider to Glock to be more reliable than Keltec. Have seen many more Keltecs blow than Glocks. But, there is a lot to be said for second strike capability on a posible dud round.
And I agree... to purse or pocket carry with the Glock, I wouldn't have one in the pipe.
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I've grown to love my Glock, a 3rd gen G23 (.40SW, 10rd mags). On a good day, I can put 2 good hits on each of 5 center mass targets, from 3 to 10 yards in a 90 degree arc in about 4 seconds. It is my go to carry when concealment is not an issue.

I also really like my Kel-Tec P-11 (9mm, 10rd mags). On a good day it takes me over 8 seconds to accomplish the same results. The long, stiff DA trigger is the reason, it sucks. Sights don't really matter because I only use the front anyway. I carry it when concealment is an issue, and at home due to the trigger. At home, the pistol is out of the holster quite a bit and I don't want to have to look at it every time I pick it up to make sure I don't touch the trigger by accident. To me, the trade off of speed/accuracy is worth it to keep from having a ND.

I would consider a Glock in a purse very dangerous unless it was in condition 3, but that's probably how you meant she could carry it.


I would never carry any pistol that isn't in a holster of some kind. That goes for a pocket or purse or glove-box. Don't know if that makes any difference or not.
A great way to have an ND is carry a loaded gun that's not in a holster of some kind...

Cops that use Glocks must carry those babies with one in the pipe - What about all this "safe action" crap Glock proudly brags about?
Must not be all that safe if nobody wants to carry a Glock with one in the pipe!! :shock:

I don't know jack about either pistol - never owned either brand. The only other little Kel-Tec I've ever touched was a P-32 at a gun show.
And I voted for the Kel-Tec... :D

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Glocks are very safe guns to carry with one in the chamber, just keep your finger off of the boom switch until needed... of course the same thing can be said for the Keltec P3AT too. ;)

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between the 2 choices, i would pick the Kel Tec .. IF.. it is not a pistol you plan to fire thousands of rounds through, price wise it is the better choice, Glock has a better record of reliability over time with lots of shooting


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jasonsch wrote:
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Cops that use Glocks must carry those babies with one in the pipe - What about all this "safe action" crap Glock proudly brags about?
Must not be all that safe if nobody wants to carry a Glock with one in the pipe!! :shock:

I don't know jack about either pistol - never owned either brand. The only other little Kel-Tec I've ever touched was a P-32 at a gun show.
And I voted for the Kel-Tec... :D



The Glock has a safety that physically blocks the firing pin. This safety is moved out of the way by the trigger bar as the trigger is pressed. The trigger has a safety that physically blocks the trigger from being pressed, until it is pressed out of the way by your finger (or any object inserted into the trigger guard). Very safe as long as nothing can get inside the trigger guard, like in a holster that blocks the trigger guard. The trigger safety is the little trigger thing inside the trigger. I feel completely safe carrying my glock with 'one in the pipe', as long as I'm carrying it. When at home though, where I'm inclined to remove my pistol from the holster and set it next to me while sitting around reading, on the toilet (usually reading), eating, or whatever.....that's when I don't trust it. Or, I should say I don't trust myself. When I go to pick the pistol up I may not be paying the strictest attention to how I grab it (without actually looking) and don't want to have to worry about accidentally touching the trigger safety and trigger.

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I've looked at the Glock and think it's about as big as some 9s. If I'm going to carry a pistol big enough to be a 9mm, I want the adequate (yep - just adequate) power or the 9mm cartridge.

I have a P3AT and 2 P32s. Neither is truly powerful enough to depend upon so I prefer the extra shot the .32 provides. My wife carries a P32 and I don't argue; I'm just glad she carries.

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i like the Beretta Pico, .380, swap out the barrel and it is a .32 and it has restrike


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i like the Beretta Pico, .380, swap out the barrel and it is a .32 and it has restrike


Well, son-of-a-gin ricky!! Look at what was on my "Gun Digest" calendar today!!
A .380 or a .32 - Just like you said!! :D

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awesome Jason!!! lol, i have always had a weak spot for Beretta's, but call me old fashioned.. i actually like manual safeties


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