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I know several folks who pick up brass but don't reload, makes some good money even if you don't have any way to clean and polish it up. I prefer to buy my .223/5.56 unprocessed so I can judge how tight the primer pockets still are. Crimped primers are a sure sign it's only been fired once, and IMHO well worth the extra effort to process.

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All this talk about catchin' brass makes me feel guilty. I save what comes out of the revolvers and what's obvious on the ground. Then, I watch a "Hickok45" video and don't feel so bad. He's walking on so much spent ammo it sound like when your walking along the railroad tracks after they spread fresh granite. Guess it would be different if I were reloading.


If you don't reload (yet), it's still good as trade stock!!! Rare brass even more so...



"Yet" is the word. Every time I have to pay for Cowboy Action 45 LC to run thru my converted Pietta black powder revolver, I consider learning the craft. Im sure once I'm over the initial investment I'll wonder why I didn't get into it sooner.

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That's exactly how I felt after getting everything figured out as to how I was going to reload. At first I was a bit overwhelmed, with visions of exploding guns (and fingers) if I made even the slightest mistake. As I got more and more into it and learned basic safety precautions I was like "Man, I should have started doing this YEARS ago!"

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Yup, reloading is as safe as shooting a new to you gun. Gunpowder has most folks on edge, but if you shoot blackpowder it's much less safe than smokeless. Blackpowder explodes, smokeless burns. No problem with either if lit things are kept off both of them. Filling a case is simply a matter of getting the prescribed amount in it and no more. Then a pressing a projectile in it to a predetermined depth. Easy. Even a caveman can do it, :whistle:

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George, many of us here reload and have been doing so for years. I would wager a guess that we have well over 100 collective years loading experience on this site.
Loading should be and is, safe, following just a few standard practices, that ANY of us would be thrilled to help with!!! You will definitely find differences of choice regarding
which label of equipment to buy, but that's what that is. Choice. If you have interest, let the question fly and we'll give you a plethora of answers. If any of our answers differ,
we'll also give you an explanation of why they differ. Again, usually a simple choice. IE, "I like this powder or machine better than that one because of...".

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Are you convinced yet George? If not you can send me any brass you like, I just started reloading 45 Colt making 7 calibers and I'll be adding 30-30 before long. I'm pretty new compared to most of the reloaders on this forum but I read a lot on the subject and have friends locally that have been doing a lot longer one of them started before I was born.

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Might want to grab some .380 brass for the new SCCY CPX-3. I think it begins shipping March 24. Uses the new Roebuck Quad-Lock system to stabilize the barrel. Read about it here: http://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2015/12/sccy-marvel-the-all-new-cpx-3-pistol/#sccy-cpx-3-concealed-carry


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Randy wrote:
Yup, reloading is as safe as shooting a new to you gun. Gunpowder has most folks on edge, but if you shoot blackpowder it's much less safe than smokeless. Blackpowder explodes, smokeless burns. No problem with either if lit things are kept off both of them. Filling a case is simply a matter of getting the prescribed amount in it and no more. Then a pressing a projectile in it to a predetermined depth. Easy. Even a caveman can do it, :whistle:


The problem is, WHICH "prescribed amount" do you load? :hmmm: If you buy ALL the reloading data books, you'll still find some that list start loads that are near max loads in others. I follow the powder manufacturer for the most part, double check with the bullet manufacturer.

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mogunner wrote:
Randy wrote:
Yup, reloading is as safe as shooting a new to you gun. Gunpowder has most folks on edge, but if you shoot blackpowder it's much less safe than smokeless. Blackpowder explodes, smokeless burns. No problem with either if lit things are kept off both of them. Filling a case is simply a matter of getting the prescribed amount in it and no more. Then a pressing a projectile in it to a predetermined depth. Easy. Even a caveman can do it, :whistle:


The problem is, WHICH "prescribed amount" do you load? :hmmm: If you buy ALL the reloading data books, you'll still find some that list start loads that are near max loads in others. I follow the powder manufacturer for the most part, double check with the bullet manufacturer.


Yup, what he said^^

I go simpler because I only load three calibers so far, two pistola and one revolver. I only use two different powders mainly because I am not loading for accuracy as most of these guys are, I shoot for the pure fun of it, not to be ready for the apocalypse. :dunno:

In the beginning I did contact the powder company's to verify a few things and found out that it is like talking to a trusted neighbor. No problems getting through and always friendly.

As Mo said, choices, there is room for about every choice, every financial condition, and every nerve ending (meaning if it gives you shivers thinking about hammering a bullet into a case then moving up in cost to single stage will alleviate those heeby- geebies. Or if money allows, you can go the way of the $2500 machine to to start. So the entry into reloading can cost anywhere from less than a $100 for a system that will make 30 rounds an hour or less all the way up to 'how many do you want to make in a minute'?

For po' folk like myself, Lee presses are a good starting point, they almost mandate learning the machine, learning what each dud cartridge looks like and allows a guy that likes to fiddle with machines the opportunity to do so. Or you can go the more expensive route to start and simply make cartridges with no muss or fuss (just remember- ya gets what ya pays for) by buying one of the more expensive brands of presses. A single stage press by any manufacturer will do the work and likely do it good. For more accuracy in the loads it might be the difference between the expensive companies and the less expansive ones however. :hmmm: Lee verses any of the others. Lee is about the least expensive point of entry.

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 Post subject: Re: Gotta talk SCCY for a moment
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There are more activities I want to participate in than I have time for. When there was zero ammo in the stores I swore I was going to learn reloading. Now, with the inventories replenished I no longer feel the sense of urgency. Like Randy, there's only a few calibers I'd load. 45 lc cowboy is always expensive when you can find it. 25 acp is so over priced it's sick. And, I like 380. When there's a shortage 380 is the first to disappear, and last to come back. While I shoot mostly 9mm, I think it can be had so cheaply it's not worth the time.
I watched the Sccy video and yes I want one. I have a Thunder 380 that's very accurate.

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George - I reload 25 acp and I enjoy the hell out of it!!

Cheaper than a 22 shell - 1 grain of powder is all it takes!!

Reloading seems a little overwhelming at 1st - but there isn't all that much to it - Get a Lee press like Tolly or Mo has and a few sets of dies... You'd be set!!

Tolly - didn't you post a video of your press in action a while back??
You should repost it - or maybe we could find the original - so George ( and all of us) can have a look.

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George I am set up to reload in case we have another panic/shortage which is a good possibility in these crazy days. Either get the gear to reload or buy what you estimate would be a lifetime supply of ammo.... if the dems stay in office they will either take the guns or cut off the ammo.

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I'd reckon on them cutting off the ammo. Even Sanders is against shutting down the gun manufacturers.

George, for a couple hundred bucks you could have enough Lee equipment to load just about any caliber you wanted to. If you shoot it it can likely be reloaded. .40 LC is a common size. If you shoot lead in the cowboy shoots you make your own projectiles or buy them from someone who does at the shoots. 9mm is cheap, but about half price when you make your own. :dunno:

Being too busy is always a problem, reloading only intrudes on your business when you want it to. I made about 300 rounds of 9mm about a year ago and have hardly dented it, YMMV.

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Reloading isn't just to save money. If you take the time to work up loads for your firearms, you'll benefit from increased accuracy as well. I load slowly in order to maintain variances between cartridges to a minimum, plus it's also a "relaxation technique" as well.

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That is one of the neat things about reloading.. everybody does it for their own reasons.

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