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 Post subject: Wondering about .22LR projectile weight vs kick vs FPS
PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:52 pm 
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OK that sounds complicated...

What I am curious about is projectile weight vs speed mostly fo my Phoenix. It is supposed to use standard velocity... that means subsonic I guess. But does weight of the projectile have any bearing on how the slide reacts to the cartridge? :dunno:

For instance, a 40gr projectile in a subsonic load vs a lighter weight projectile such as 31gr. Would one cause a higher chamber pressure (felt recoil)? :hmmm:

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Subsonic is lighter than standard velocity, then ya have the high velocity.


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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about .22LR projectile weight vs kick vs FPS
PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:47 pm 
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Hey Scott, I was just looking at hotels/motels in the sisseton SD area for a possible get-together. it's about midway for you and Jason , but a bit of a drive for us. The reason for that area is my wife has some really long term old friends that live in Rosholt SD and my wife would like to see them again. We haven't seen them for thirty years. :shock:

Maybe I'll have my Harley ready for a road trip by then too. I just ordered two new tires last night. Still need a battery and some starter work and maybe a new carb. (and some googles). Hahahaha! My old eyes are too dry to see clearly when riding anymore. I do have a small windshield I can put on the beast though. My old S&S Super B has seen better days since it is over 32 years old now. :shock:

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That sounds pretty good to me, I wonder how many of us can get together to celebrate the joyous event.


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Joyous event is a bit of a stretch...I think relief from the pain is more suitable. Liberal college is one hell of a chore let me tell you. And even though Kaplan is not too liberal, some of the students are. I am pretty much hating school at this point. I will be so happy to just be done with it.

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How many more days till completion Randy?

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I can't do the math....but the last day is April 5.

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Back to the OP, I have never felt a difference in recoil with any .22 in a particular category, IE, all sub-sonics feel the same. All high-vel feels the same, etc.
.22 mag would be an exception. Could also be that my .22 pistol is heavy enough to negate recoil. Same for my .22 rifle.

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Just wondering if the hi-vel with light projectiles has the same kick as standard-vel with heavy projectiles. The reason being I want to shoot my Phoenix with what is available if the only thing available is hi-vel with 32gr projectiles as opposed to low-vel with 38-40gr projectiles. :dunno: is this clear as iced tea?

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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about .22LR projectile weight vs kick vs FPS
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Likely takes the larger charge to operate the action. But I doubt you will detect any appreciable difference in recoil. Might notice it but it
will be minimal.

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In my Ruger Mark 1 I like the SV for the accuracy but it is minimal over HV.


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Phoenix recommends SV, but it is just as hard to get locally as HV. HV can be shot but they don't recommend a steady diet of it. I think maybe it cycles it too hard :dunno: It is just pot metal. Not sure what the barrel is made of, never put a magnet on one.

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Too much HV in a Phoenix and you can crack the frame is what I have always heard. They are good little guns but can only handle so much.

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