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 Post subject: New to guns, Advice?
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 9:17 am 
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My brother's sister-in-law and her husband have recently retired.
They have a nice place in Highlands Ranch, and built a new house at the lake down the road from me here in Nebraska.
They are the type of people who wouldn't pour the driveway until the turtles hatched, and if you even talk about killing a cat she's likely to burst into tears and never speak to you again.
Really nice people though.
Anyway.....they've decided they want a gun for home defense and maybe a little target practice once in a while, and they've further decided I am the one to talk to them about guns and advise them on what to get.
I'm leaning toward a revolver for their first gun, but will let them shoot a few different types.
So far, I plan to let them shoot a S&W 586 and an EAA Windicator, just so they can see the difference in a higher end and a lower end revolver. I may even let them shoot a J frame just to compare.
On the semi auto side, I think maybe a Glock 32 (9mm barrel), a Shield and a 1911.
Before all that though, I'll dig out a .22 revolver and a .22 auto just to get the safety and grip and such right.
Before that, I'll go over the safety rules
Anybody else got any ideas on a gun I could show them or anything I could do to help them?
Thanks :great:

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Sounds like you've made some great choices. I do agree on a revolver for new shooters, that 586 is a great choice.


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 Post subject: Re: New to guns, Advice?
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If it were me and I had customers come in the store and ask me that question I would suggest a Mossberg 500 pump in 20 gauge, and a blued EAA windicator 4 inch barrel .357 mag. They can shoot 38 special out of the revolver if 357 is too much recoil for plinking

Those two weapons would take care of 99% of the situations any home owner is likely to encounter, and you can buy both of them for what you would spend on a S&W revolver.

Let us know how it goes.

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I had thought about suggesting a shotgun, or even something like Hi-Point Carbine.
I'm really looking forward to working with them

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 Post subject: New to guns, Advice?
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 12:00 pm 
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I had thought about suggesting a shotgun, or even something like Hi-Point Carbine.
I'm really looking forward to working with them


I would recommend the hi point 995ts carbine. Very easy to shoot and no recoil. I got one for Christmas and my wife has claimed the gun for herself. Great price and one of the best defense gun for a non gun person.


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I had thought about suggesting a shotgun, or even something like Hi-Point Carbine.
I'm really looking forward to working with them


I would recommend the hi point 995ts carbine. Very easy to shoot and no recoil. I got one for Christmas and my wife has claimed the gun for herself. Great price and one of the best defense gun for a non gun person.


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They are good little guns
I had one and hope to get another one

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I like the hi point carbines, but If I could have or only wanted one gun it would be a shotgun. you can shoot birdshot, 00buck and slugs out of it.. covers a lot of different applications.

Second would be a handgun and you cant beat the eaa windicator for a decent revolver at a decent price.

Third would be a hi point carbine. In 45acp. at close range a devastating weapon

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I have to agree with Walt on the shotgun. My Mossberg 500 resides in my closet with #4 shot along with a 38 in my nightstand. I don't want to shoot my neighbors.


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I support the .38 spl suggestion. I would differ however, on the 586 vs the GP100.

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 Post subject: Re: New to guns, Advice?
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Ex_ISP wrote:
I support the .38 spl suggestion. I would differ however, on the 586 vs the GP100.

Well, I have a 586, so that's what they get to shoot :mrgreen:
I was thinking more the style than the particular firearm.
Money is no object, so they'll probably pick something entirely different than anything I have, but they can get an idea

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When I'm exposing first time shooters, I like to use the Bersa Thunder 380. Safety checks are easy, single and double action is easily explained, and recoil isn't intimidating. The obvious choice is Walt's 20 gage suggestion, but since it was posted in the handgun section....lol. Besides, the " if I could only have or want one gun"? What language is that? I read it but I don't know what it says. :roflol:

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George Taylor wrote:
When I'm exposing first time shooters, I like to use the Bersa Thunder 380. Safety checks are easy, single and double action is easily explained, and recoil isn't intimidating. The obvious choice is Walt's 20 gage suggestion, but since it was posted in the handgun section....lol. Besides, the " if I could only have or want one gun"? What language is that? I read it but I don't know what it says. :roflol:

Bersa isn't a bad idea
I have the .22 version and the .380 version.........
I could start small

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Believe it or not George, there are people out there that neither need or want a gun... I don't trust them, but they are out there ;)

Hell Husk, if money is no object, then I vote Desert Eagle .50ae! Or a Magnum Research BFR in 45/70 :)

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Believe it or not George, there are people out there that neither need or want a gun... I don't trust them, but they are out there ;)

Hell Husk, if money is no object, then I vote Desert Eagle .50ae! Or a Magnum Research BFR in 45/70 :)

Not sure they are ready for that kind of artillery :mrgreen:

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It's the odd things that you take for granted that a new shooter needs explained. "Last round hold open" gets em every time. "Is it broke?". I remember the first time shooting an M1. When the clip ejected out the top I almost crapped my pants. My son tends to cross his left thumb over his right hand. Eventually the slide will take his thumb nail off and I won't have to remind him any more. Still, shooting might be the most fun you can have with your pants on.

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