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 Post subject: Re: I really need therapy
PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:49 pm 
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I LOVE project guns when they're the right price. But a revolver gun can be tricky if the cylinder is loose and has timing issues.

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 Post subject: Re: I really need therapy
PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:51 pm 
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Some of the hits weren't that good and some were.
Some looked like double hits, a good one and a light one
I don't know if the hammer was bouncing or what.
I know it's capable of firing and hits where it's pointed....just have to work on the consistency.
If I buy it
If you don't want it let me know, I'd be interested at the right price.

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 Post subject: Re: I really need therapy
PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:46 am 
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Well, I bought it and figured out a couple things.
First, the hammer spring screw was a little loose so I tightened it down a little.
Second, I noticed it was leaving marks outside the primer.
I got to working the action and noticed sometimes it'd go past the next chamber a little, it wasn't locking in.
I could turn it back a tic to where it'd click in and it would fire.
I brushed some solvent into the hole where the little catch thing is and also into the little finger that turns the cylinder.
It seems a lot better now, but I'm still going to clean take it apart and clean it.
I'm wondering if someone oiled those parts and it's just sticky?

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 Post subject: Re: I really need therapy
PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:56 am 
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Well, I bought it and figured out a couple things.
First, the hammer spring screw was a little loose so I tightened it down a little.
Second, I noticed it was leaving marks outside the primer.
I got to working the action and noticed sometimes it'd go past the next chamber a little, it wasn't locking in.
I could turn it back a tic to where it'd click in and it would fire.
I brushed some solvent into the hole where the little catch thing is and also into the little finger that turns the cylinder.
It seems a lot better now, but I'm still going to clean take it apart and clean it.
I'm wondering if someone oiled those parts and it's just sticky?


I've come across some really grungy cylinders like that before. You might need to get a decent dental pick after you tear it apart and go after the hard caked stuff. ;-)

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Sounds like you got it figured out. Like ape said, a pick will be your friend.

I've worked on several on the single action revolvers and am always facinated at how little it takes to make them not function right.

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I'll try to get a picture up today sometime.
You guys can tell me if I'm wasting time and money

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I'll try to get a picture up today sometime.
You guys can tell me if I'm wasting time and money


I've found that the only way to judge if a project gun is a waste of time and money, is by the individuals desire.

I have an old Mossy 500 that I bought from a pawn shop as a "broken gun" for 75 bucks. Safety was broken, wouldn't feed, and the barrel had some external rusting.
Some new parts, 50 bucks or so, and some serious elbow grease, and now it's a gorgeous gun. Well worth it to most anyone I'd think.

I also had an old Saturday night special given to me that was broken and takes an unusual ammo. Spent alot of time and money (150 bucks or so) tracking down useable parts. And alot more time refinishing it and reassembling it, and it's probably only worth 100 bucks? Not worth it to most people. But for me it was and is because I love doing that sort of thing.

In other words, it's all subjective as to whether or not it's worth it. ;-)

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Ape wrote:

I've found that the only way to judge if a project gun is a waste of time and money, is by the individuals desire.

I have an old Mossy 500 that I bought from a pawn shop as a "broken gun" for 75 bucks. Safety was broken, wouldn't feed, and the barrel had some external rusting.
Some new parts, 50 bucks or so, and some serious elbow grease, and now it's a gorgeous gun. Well worth it to most anyone I'd think.

I also had an old Saturday night special given to me that was broken and takes an unusual ammo. Spent alot of time and money (150 bucks or so) tracking down useable parts. And alot more time refinishing it and reassembling it, and it's probably only worth 100 bucks? Not worth it to most people. But for me it was and is because I love doing that sort of thing.

In other words, it's all subjective as to whether or not it's worth it. ;-)

I hear ya there
I've redone a few, just because I hate it when something doesn't work right.

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I used to rehab several a year just because I like doing it. Now, the places I usually got the project guns seems to think they are worth as much as I can buy working gun for.

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I got a nice deal on a Jap type 38 rifle that had a broken case stuck in the chamber... bought it online. Got brother mike to get the case out and fired it to find out that the chamber is oversized. A shame because its otherwise in good condition..

I'm thinking of having mike recut the chamber and cut the threads and reheadspace it. I will of course have more in it than its worth, but I will be saving a 80 year old gun and making it shootable . Its worth it to me.

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It seems to me that there were many of the 38s that were re-chamberd to 257 Roberts (bigger case but slightly smaller bullet).

Look on the receiver for a marking, possibly hidden by the stock.

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 Post subject: Re: I really need therapy
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I hear ya there
I've redone a few, just because I hate it when something doesn't work right.

Sounds just like me. That's how I learned how to rebuild an engine as a kid! ;-)
That, and I've always had to tear things apart to see how they work! LOL

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I used to rehab several a year just because I like doing it. Now, the places I usually got the project guns seems to think they are worth as much as I can buy working gun for.

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I've been noticing the same thing the last few years. The small pawn shops I used to find broken down old guns, now thinks they're worth is just under new guns msrp!
Even though they never sell those guns anymore.

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I worked all day yesterday, so I haven't really had a chance to work on it.
I did force some solvent down into the cylinder lock, and it's working a lot better.
Maybe today I'll take it apart and see if I can clean it better, it still feels sticky, and sometimes when I push it down, it doesn't come up all the way, or it comes up slow.
Makes me wonder if someone wasn't monkeying with the springs, or more likely, oiled it. :dunno:

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Cornhusker wrote:
I worked all day yesterday, so I haven't really had a chance to work on it.
I did force some solvent down into the cylinder lock, and it's working a lot better.
Maybe today I'll take it apart and see if I can clean it better, it still feels sticky, and sometimes when I push it down, it doesn't come up all the way, or it comes up slow.
Makes me wonder if someone wasn't monkeying with the springs, or more likely, oiled it. :dunno:

Could just be gummed up from old oil and grime. Or just worn out old springs.

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