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Well, I got this one with the 3-9x40 and the Dead Hold BDC reticle for $149.99
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Of course, I had to get a scope mount...$79.99 :shock:
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Stretched my $96 pretty hard. :scared:

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That scope mount is probably better than the $10 scope rings I usually use!!

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That scope mount is probably better than the $10 scope rings I usually use!!

I probably got talked into something I didn't really need :(

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At least that mount looks pretty...and it can be flip-Ed to reduce the eye relief. And you put a poor downtrodden American to work...maybe. :hmmm:

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It is a really good scope mount for the money!!

And the one-piece scope mounts are supposed to be a heck of a lot more solid than rings.

I've got one on my AR - but its basically a Chinese made Amazon Special.
But it does alright (-:

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That was the cheapest one they had at Cabela's that day.
Would it work if I took it off the AR and put it on the MVP or is it strictly made for the AR platform?

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I was playing with the rings that came with the Bushnell RD that I need to send back one of these days. They are pretty much junk in my eyes. It's a shame that Bushnell would risk their reputation with the packaging of cheap (something) just to make a deal look sweeter. Or maybe I'm just squeamish about torquing a 1/8" threaded rod down to 200ftlbs like these ring mounts seem to need to make them solid. They have thumb screws on them...tighten them as tight as possible that way and they rock fore and aft about 1/16". Grab the gearwrench and put an extra flat turn (one sixth rotation) on it and still the same rocking, another flat turn and it starts getting better, about a half a turn later and cringing waiting for the torque to fall off to nothing and it seems rather solid. :scared: Kinda defeats the thumbscrew idea though if it needs a wrench to turn it another half turn after tightening it by hand. :hmmm:

So...last night I grabbed the file set and decided to work on em til I made em work or ruined them. :whistle: It appeared as through the side clamp that reaches under the side of the rail was too long (or these rings are designed for dovetail mounting). As the clamp reached under and hit the side of the recess it tended to lift the ring on that side as it tilted. This took most of one side of the bottom off the rail resulting in the rings rocking since there was an air gap under them. Basically the rings are not fixable for use on a picatinny rail since in order to fix them material has to be ADDED to the clamp area to make the clamp narrower. So...I need to put shims under the base of the ring itself to lift the entire unit away from the rail so the clamp just grabs the edge the way it is supposed to and pulls the rings down into the rail. Since that solution sucks I will just see if they fit on the .22 dovetails. otherwise they are destined for the dead parts bin. Nothing about this Bushnell purchase has been good. Although not the fault of the fleaspay dealer, I now double down on my determination to not buy anything off fleaspay. Live and learn.

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That was the cheapest one they had at Cabela's that day.
Would it work if I took it off the AR and put it on the MVP or is it strictly made for the AR platform?

If you use a one-piece scope mount thats a picatinny rail it'll fit right on there.
The one piece scope mount is supposed to help the action be more solid and accurate.
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Yep, I have that piece on it.
So I could use the AR mount instead of rings right?

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It'll fit on anything with a Picatinny or Weaver rail, but may not be the right height. Trial fitting it would be about the only way to really tell. I have one that's similar but it's a Chinese one, works fine though and probably less than $20.

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Yep, I have that piece on it.
So I could use the AR mount instead of rings right?

Husker - You're always one step ahead of me...
What caliber is your MVP?
They're known to be an accurate rifle. :great:

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It'll fit on anything with a Picatinny or Weaver rail, but may not be the right height. Trial fitting it would be about the only way to really tell. I have one that's similar but it's a Chinese one, works fine though and probably less than $20.


When Mo showed the one he had a while back, I "Amazoned" one for myself...
The picture and description showed one made for a 1" tube only and smooth upper rings, which is what I wanted.
What I received was this...

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Picatinny rail on the top and sides of one and on top of the other - and 30mm rings with plastic inserts for a 1" scope...
If I remember right, this thing was like $15+ a little for shipping - Pretty inexpensive for sure.
I emailed the seller and asked about it and he offered to take it back or knock a little off the price and I told him it was fine.
I was just checking to see if the wrong one was sent or what - For that price I wasn't going to be too picky!! It still does what I wanted.
I have it mounted on my "hunting" AR and it's working great so far!!

This is also when I found out stuff can be mailed from China and it only takes a week or so:

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I suppose when Trump gets in he will screw up the cheap Chinese gun parts for us... :neutral:
It'll be worth it though!!

This is an AR-Stoner mount I got for a guy from Midway.
It was "on-sale" for a little over $50 and is really nice.
Otherwise, it's about the same price as the Nikon P-223 Husker has:

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Anyway, that sums up my experience with on-piece scope mounts!!

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Yep, I have that piece on it.
So I could use the AR mount instead of rings right?

Husker - You're always one step ahead of me...
What caliber is your MVP?
They're known to be an accurate rifle. :great:


Mine is the .556 Patrol model.
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Cornhusker wrote:
jasonsch wrote:
Cornhusker wrote:
Yep, I have that piece on it.
So I could use the AR mount instead of rings right?

Husker - You're always one step ahead of me...
What caliber is your MVP?
They're known to be an accurate rifle. :great:


Mine is the .556 Patrol model.
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What a simple little shooting rest Husker...Totally adjustable for height too....Why do you keep that neat stuff from us? :cry:

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What a simple little shooting rest Husker...Totally adjustable for height too....Why do you keep that neat stuff from us? :cry:

I thought I had posted that one a while back, but maybe not since I can't find a good picture of it.
It's basically a 2x4 mounted on a 4x4 with a hinge. a small piece of wood is between and can be slid back and forth to make it higher or lower.
Works pretty good for casual shooting.
And, you can turn it around to use with long mags. :mrgreen:

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