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Looking good there Randy!!

There are no "uninteresting" AR-15's Randy - at least, not to me!!

That baby does have a long hand guard on it!!

If you do build another with an 18"or20" barrel, and if you get the kind same hand guard, get a shorter one for this rifle and use the longer on the next rifle.
Which is pretty much what you said...
But if it's the same style hand-guard, you wouldn't have to remove the barrel nut.
All it would take to change it is those 8 screws on the outside... Providing you didn't use Loc-Tite on these!!

And a "blast forwarder" is a new one on me -I haven't see that before!!
And I know it's because the hand-guard is so long...

And it doesn't look like this would have done the trick for you either:

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A thread protector.
I've had a few complaints about AR's being too loud...
Take off the flash-hider and replace it with a thread protector, and it's just like a regular hunting rifle.

But an AR wouldn't look right if the hand guard was longer than the barrel, would it??

I still think they must have sent you the wrong hand guard!!
I woulda took it to work and whacked a few inches off the end with our non-ferrous saw.
Even a table saw, radial arm saw or miter saw for wood with a sharp carbide tipped blade should cut that aluminum pretty square.

Anyway - Enough of that...
I'm looking forward to a range report!!
I'll bet an AR in that caliber is going to be fun to shoot!!
I'll bet it's more accurate that you'd think too!!

My 1st "hunting' AR had a 3-9x40 scope - which is a great scope for an AR IMHO.
I had to sell that rifle... )-:
But on my 2nd "hunting" AR, I put a 4-12x40 scope on it.

If you have a good scope laying around or one you could "borrow from another rifle...
It's be neat to see what kind of group this would shoot off a good rest at a 100 yards!!

Sorry so long Randy - I got a little "over-excited"... :thumb:

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Looking good there Randy!!

There are no "uninteresting" AR-15's Randy - at least, not to me!!

That baby does have a long hand guard on it!!

If you do build another with an 18"or20" barrel, and if you get the kind same hand guard, get a shorter one for this rifle and use the longer on the next rifle.
Which is pretty much what you said...
But if it's the same style hand-guard, you wouldn't have to remove the barrel nut.
All it would take to change it is those 8 screws on the outside... Providing you didn't use Loc-Tite on these!!

And a "blast forwarder" is a new one on me -I haven't see that before!!
And I know it's because the hand-guard is so long...

And it doesn't look like this would have done the trick for you either:

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A thread protector.
I've had a few complaints about AR's being too loud...
Take off the flash-hider and replace it with a thread protector, and it's just like a regular hunting rifle.

But an AR wouldn't look right if the hand guard was longer than the barrel, would it??

I still think they must have sent you the wrong hand guard!!
I woulda took it to work and whacked a few inches off the end with our non-ferrous saw.
Even a table saw, radial arm saw or miter saw for wood with a sharp carbide tipped blade should cut that aluminum pretty square.

Anyway - Enough of that...
I'm looking forward to a range report!!
I'll bet an AR in that caliber is going to be fun to shoot!!
I'll bet it's more accurate that you'd think too!!

My 1st "hunting' AR had a 3-9x40 scope - which is a great scope for an AR IMHO.
I had to sell that rifle... )-:
But on my 2nd "hunting" AR, I put a 4-12x40 scope on it.

If you have a good scope laying around or one you could "borrow from another rifle...
It's be neat to see what kind of group this would shoot off a good rest at a 100 yards!!

Sorry so long Randy - I got a little "over-excited"... :thumb:


I believe, but have no proof, that Kalashnikov invented the blast forwarder for the AK. Today it's called the Krink or Krinkov (also a name for an AK). It was originally intended to increase barrel pressures for short barreled rifles in order to allow them to cycle consistently in full auto. :dunno: That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

As for the guard, nope, they sent the right one, it's the technical specs on the site that were lacking. They called it 15.5" what they didn't say was that measurement was from the front of the barrel nut, not the rear or face of the lower.. :hmmm:

yup, this guard will go on the next longer barrel build, but that means I'll have to by the same brand of guard. Not 100% sure I want to do that now. So I might just buy a shorter version and switch it out and sell the long one with the new barrel nut (the nut is steel BTW). :dunno: I just do a lot of thinking out loud.

I did consider for a moment about putting my cheap Simmons rim fire scope on it, but I decided against it for a couple reasons, one) I don't know how to put a scope on a rifle :stupid: and 2) when I put it on my .22 I attached the rings, clamped the scope in it and went shooting. Couldn't hit the side of my barn from five feet away. Went back inside and noticed the scope was 90* off, I had the top turret on the side... :funny: Hard to tell the difference with a crosshair reticle. Rolled it over some and kinda leveled the horizontal line to the way I held the rifle and went out shooting. At least this time I was hitting close to the side of the barn, trouble was, that is not the direction I was shooting... :wow: Went back inside and tried to determine what the issue was. Picked a spot on the wall about 25' away and set the rifle on my sand bags on the table. Sighted the iron sights in to the spot, the scope wasn't close. turned and turned the turn the turret adjusters till it got as good as I could get it. Went out shooting. some minor fiddling and I can hit a penny at 100 yards after about 100 rounds... :yes2:

Moral of the story, I can not mount a scope worth a darn.

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I can't get one mounted right either Randy.
After a lot of fooling and fiddling, I have one on my Saiga .223 and one on a Savage .270 that are pretty close, but to be fair, they came with the scopes on them.
I also have one on a .22 that's pretty close, and that one I did actually mount :mrgreen:
I bought a used scope a while back for a .22 but the windage knob seems to be disconnected :(

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I've mounted over 25 scopes since the FFL arrived!!
Piece of cake!!

Get this:

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http://www.midwayusa.com/product/529349 ... eling-tool

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http://www.midwayusa.com/product/636671 ... 0-12-gauge

And you be shooting knat's in the ass in no time!! :great:

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That look good Randy! Does the scope have a nice clear picture in it?

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That look good Randy! Does the scope have a nice clear picture in it?


It's cheap, the reason it's cheap? The optics are not the best. The lenses are not optically precise. Around the perimeter of the lens the picture gets wavy, like looking through a bowl of water. The dot/cross,circle, etc. itself is not terrible but I have no experience with one. :dunno:

Tomorrow I'll mount it on the real gun instead of the extra upper that it's on. Then I'll wander outside with it if I have time. I decided to give this one to my wife if I haven't mentioned that. 100% probability she won't like it. My conscious will be clear however... :whistle: I expect to be shooting it this Sunday. Might even try to zero the dot in. :)

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OK, everything is in place, everything is ready to go. EXCEPT, I haven't yet sealed the surface....still. So should I just wipe it down with 30weight, with a silicone wipe, with sewing machine light oil, bacon grease, find a bear and boil the lard out of it, wipe the hair of a too hip Italian on it or what? :dunno:

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I just use Remoil to wipe down the outside but I'd pay money to see ya get the lard out of a bear.

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I just use Remoil to wipe down the outside but I'd pay money to see ya get the lard out of a bear.

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I'd buy a ticket to that show :mrgreen:

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I just use Remoil to wipe down the outside but I'd pay money to see ya get the lard out of a bear.

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No bears are harmed in that process.... :whistle:

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I just use Remoil to wipe down the outside but I'd pay money to see ya get the lard out of a bear.

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Are Remwipes the same thing? Stupid lazy people want to know...ME!

The jug of wipes is three feet from me, I can't reach it and don't care to get up and try.... :whistle:

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I'm sure the wipes are the same stuff but I can't bring them to you, you'll have to get off your ass and get them yourself.

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I'm sure the wipes are the same stuff but I can't bring them to you, you'll have to get off your ass and get them yourself.

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:groan: Oh OK!

They weren't either one... they are Hoppes wipes. :oops: I did have a small bottle of remoil that added I used to add drops of all over the metal and soaked the FCG with in addition to the Hoppes wipes.

Last night I pulled the upper and lower combo out to install the LPK. I had used the upper to test fit all the Red Dot sight parts and assemble it. I never really looked closely at it since it's simply an Anderson upper. On closer inspection I saw this->
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Q: Are the parts online treated with RF85?
A: Only our rifles are fully treated with RF85, the proprietary treatment that means your weapon never needs oiling. ONLY CERTAIN PARTS SOLD SEPARATELY HAVE BEEN TREATED WITH RF85. Look for the RF85 logo to identity our world famous NO LUBE RIFLES and RF85 treated parts.

So, I guess it's a good thing I didn't get carried away with the oiling I gave the lower last night. The RF85 says it doesn't need oiling. :dunno: I didn't find any RF85 marks on the lower. Can't feel any difference betwixt the two myself. But my fingers don't have much feel left in them other than pain...

But while I was oiling/wiping the lower I noticed there wasn't a lot of 'soaking-in' going on. I heated the lower up with my heat gun hot enough that I actually felt more pain while handling it so it should have opened the pores if there where any to open. But when I wiped the excess off it it seemed to all come off. It didn't change the appearance of the metal either. :dunno:

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