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 Post subject: Steel Targets 200 & 300 Yards
PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:02 am 
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Last night, after work, in our Inventor Program I drew up 2 one inch thick steel plates. A 12" and an 18" round.
Pretty simple - 2 circles!! I sent them off to our Laser Cutter to be cut out. Should have them in a week or two - when they cut more one inch plate.

My plan is to build a steel frame for each and set the 12" target at 200 yards and the 18" target at 300 yards.
I'll hang them from the frames with some higantic sooper-dooper chain I need to find yet.
A lot of folks call them "gongs". I don't know if we can call a 1" thick steel target like this a "gong"...
I just figgered it'll make a noise if you hit it and at an inch thick - the SOB should last a long time and be fairly hard to steal (Steal the Steel??) with the weight.

I'm a member of our local sportsman club that owns the shooting range, and my SIL is the Leader or President of or The Fuhrer or whatever you wanna call it.
I mentioned, via text, to him that I wanted to donate a couple of steel targets for the rifle part of our range and I was having them cut out soon.

He wasn't impressed.

Oh gosh - there's liability issues and ricocheting bullets will be killing people and animals for miles around....
And some idiot with FMJ bullets will shoot it and kill himself and others...

I told him FMJ is recommended for properly hung steel target...

Well then there's that green tipped 5.56 M855 Ball Ammunition with some steel in it... The ammo Osama is trying to ban.
That stuff will surely ricochet instantly exterminate the entire planet...

So he said he'd have to check with the other members and check with the insurance company to see if it's ok to have the Killer Steel Targets at our range.

So - My question is this - is it all that unusual to have steel targets at a rifle range?

Would like to hear what some of you know about it.

I think they'd be a hell of a lot of fun!!
I'd like to try and rainbow a 45 cal. bullet out of my JHP that far!!
Thanks for your help!!

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 Post subject: Re: Steel Targets 200 & 300 Yards
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:55 am 
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Mornin jasonsch,

I had one ricochet off my swinging targets and hit me, that's when the builder and I did some tests and changed the angel that they hung at.

These are one in a million shots, but. they had the same odds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWEy6Ut1oSg

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 Post subject: Re: Steel Targets 200 & 300 Yards
PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:33 pm 
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Steel gongs are pretty common targets around here. At 200 and 300 yards I'd say the chances of a ricochet hitting anyone is extremely remote. Like buy a lottery ticket remote.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:56 pm 
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They have to be able to swing is about it, but at 200 yards plus you won't see any problems, I'm assuming you have a berm behind and to the sides though.

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 Post subject: Re: Steel Targets 200 & 300 Yards
PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 1:00 am 
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We had a little 2 month gap here in this post!!

I've see that video before Walt - And like hobbles showed me - even with my spinny target contraption,
as long as the steel is angled so the bullet deflects down, and the target swings too, it shouldn't be a problem.

We've seen the slow-motion video's of bullets hitting steel and they pretty much act like a liquid and splash into bits.

I've shot thousands of rounds at my spinny target contraption at 30 feet from it and have never had a bullet ricochet.
I've felt a little tiny bit of something come back and hit me on a couple occasions - a result of the bullet splatting and a little piece hit me.
But even with a low velocity round like the 45 ACP - The plated bullets I use splat into a thin quarter sized piece of lead.

My SIL finally came out with me and shot his 45 at my spinny target contraption and had a hell of a good time!!
And I think he now sees that a bullet hitting steel doesn't mean an instantly out of control flying hunk of lead wanting to kill someone.

And the low velocity bullets are most likely to ricochet - A high powered rifle bullet definitely splats into nothing when it hits steel.

I was lucky that they asked me if I was ready for those 2 one inch thick plates before they cut them!! I said no.
The Sportsman Club (my SIL) claims he's asked the insurance company and they flat out said no...
I have my doubts that he actually asked them - I think he's doing the CYA "better safe than sorry" thing - but whatever...

I think I will do basically what I have done with my spinny target thing:
I'll make the gongs portable. I'll just bring them out to the range with me and set them up for myself.
And when I'm done - take them down and bring them back home with me.

I think I'll have them made out of 1/2 thick steel and make a tall "Saw Horse " type frame that the gong will hang from.
I'll make the "saw horse" frame so that the legs will spread open when in use - and close shut when not in used and stored in the back of my suburban.
That way, it'll lay flat.

If/When I build it, I will certainly take some pictures and show everyone.

Hearing that sound of the gong indicating a "hit" is just too much fun!!

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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 1:22 am 
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I know on hickok45 I sure do enjoy the sound when he hits that distant gong he has! And he's good at it! I'd be lucky at that distance!
Really need to get one of those! That is a satisfying sound!

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