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I'd try some factory ammo and get that to cycle before working up a load. Just a thought that may help to diagnose a problem, just one of the methods I use.

I have a feeling that your ammo should be ok. Try taking a video of the cycling an find an app that allows you to slow it down, could be enlightening.


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Good idea's there tolly!! I do have some factory ammo I can try on hand.
I'm fairly sure it takes a little more "Juice" to cycle it with that rifle length gas tube...
It may be a little while before I get back at it to see...

With the anniversary this week and terrible weather we've had!!
Monday night, about 50-60 miles west of here they had 6 inches of rain and baseball sized hail!!

Last night we had very high winds and lightning and a bunch more rain... :(
Supposed to keep it up all week.

I hate to complain - but it could let up for a while!! We have enough water for now...
Plus it means I'll just have to mow again soon. :whistle:

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Congrats on the anniversary Jason.


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srtolly wrote:
Congrats on the anniversary Jason.


^^^ This ^^^

Many people don't make it more than a few years any more so you
have something to be proud of bud!!!
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Yep, no point in really trying for accuracy when it's not running right. A chronograph sure would come in handy about now...

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:53 am 
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That's for sure...
I just barely even have it sighted in!
It's more lame excuse making - but, man was it a long weekend!!
Had our kids with us and dogs running around and Grand-Daughter getting baptized and insane "1 Hour AR Assembling" and well...
I'm used to nothing going on - and I'm getting to be kind of a weak old fart.

Finally got back home and sat down in my chair Sunday about 5:00 or so after all the church going and lunch and visiting with in-laws was over and figured I was there for the evening.
Darn Kids - make do all this shit and all I wanna do is play with my Load-Master and my guns!!

Then...

I open my lap top and go to HPT and the guys are like "Well??" Like, "WTF taking so long with the next range report!!??"

So - well - geez - I am darn tired - but it's nice out, just a little breezy - it's only 5:00 - I have enough daylight left - Sunday afternoon, range should have no people there - OK. I'll go!!
But I was pretty shot that Sunday afternoon...

I'm really good with the excuses.. :whistle:

Anyway, the top target I shot last - The one is a huge flyer!!
But the last three shots I really tried - took a little more time - let the wind die down a bit...
And they were the 3 in The middle touching the 1" dia. Bulls-eye.

And, I must have it sighted in fairly close...
Those 200 yard shots were the same deal - took my time - worked with that gritty trigger...
To blast that bird and 2 bottles all the 1st shot - Well, It could be luck!! (-:
The last bottle I got in a hurry with...

When you have a scope cranked up to 24 Power, everything is jiggly...
The breeze will jiggle the cross hairs and every time my heart beats... it moves the cross-hairs completely across the bulls-eye...
Trying to get that trigger to break between heart beats is more luck and chance than anything!!

But if fun trying to see how good I can do... :D
A better rest is in my future.

You can see a bit of what I use for a rest in this picture:

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That's an adjustable rest made by Hoppes - and home made sand bags.
At the end of the road is the 100 yard target - to the left is the 200 yard - to the left a bit further is a black spec... that the 300 yard target!!

The Hoppes rest is pretty nice!!
I need something with more of a "V" in it, as it's hard to make the round handguard to stay-put.
I'll see whats available - or I'll see if I can make something that will work.

Raining like a SOB here now - won't be anymore range reports for a few days... :(

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:14 pm 
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I like that rest Jason. How much are they if you don't mind?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:37 am 
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Here it is on Midway:
http://www.midwayusa.com/Product/768004 ... oting-rest

You can see a couple of things there:
1. It's discontinued!!
2. It has a rating of 2.6 - which I think is a little high!!

Many of the reviews say it damages their rifle stocks - Well Duh!! - The thing is cast iron!!
You have to put a sand bag or something over it...

This one is a lot better deal IMHO:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/682659 ... subv682659
Has a "V" type cushion on it already.

I like these kinds of rests - you can use them with a pistol too if you're careful...

The muzzle blast blew a hole in one of my sand bags when I shot my 45 JHP over it. :shock:
Bags were made from old blue jeans - Muzzle blast must be a nasty thing!!
I ended up taping a white rag on top of it to keep the steel from contacting my pistol.

Rest's are good - if you wanna know how accurate your firearm is - It's the only way to go!!

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Great info and review! Thank you!

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I use this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Caldwell-Steady-R ... oting+rest

For the price it's a great deal. Can be a bit of a pain to use with an AR with the cheapy adjustable stock as it wants to sit right on the lever that releases the stock for adjustment, so I set it on the bottom point of the butt pad instead. You still have to readjust after a shot since it's just plastic, but you can at least fine tune your sight picture with the height adjustment on the front of it. You just unscrew the front part and use it when shooting pistols.

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That looks good Mo!!
I got it here:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/838651 ... oting-rest

I was kinda lucky - they had them on-sale for $19.88 and I got the last one!! :great:
I figured it was worth a shot for $20.

And I'm not sure why - I bought that $70 el-cheapo Caldwell Chronograph too...

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I don't even know how the damn things work- other than shooting the bullet through the triangle shaped part - I guess I'll be learning...
Makes me nervous how many of these things I see on the net that are shot...
I don't mean "wore out" - I mean shot - Like with a high-powered rifle!!
And not just the Caldwell - even the nice expensive ones - none of them seem to take a bullet well!! :neutral:

That's why I think that clamp-it-on-the-end-of-the-barrel type is a good idea.
But what the hell, we'll give this baby a good try. If it's a dud, I can just shoot it on purpose...

i would like to know how fast my reloads are - the 'Book" gives a general idea - but there's a lot of variables involved!!

Of course the down-side is my wife cutting my nuts off...

I talked her into letting me order a Timney Trigger Thursday...
Today I spend another $100 with-out asking!! + Today is my actual wedding anniversary, and I haven't got her anything!! :shock:

I figure I'll blame Mo - he showed me that cheap rest and made me look...

Then I find the last one on sale for cheap...
And if I'm going to get that, I just as well get that chronograph too... I mean, just as well make it worth my while!!
The more I spend, The more I save!! That how it works for her when she's shopping!!

But I figure Mo is far enough away he's pretty safe - so I'll just say it was all his fault.... :whistle:

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There are two electric "eyes" staring up, when your bullet passes them it measures how long it takes to go between the first and second sensors and then does the math that tells you how many feet per second your projectile is traveling. Pretty simple actually

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Actually, I "understand" that it's optical. The para-glider looking thing across the top of the "rabbit ears" (again, as I've read) is to shade the thing. I've read that if you have one positioned under overhanging branches that move
in the breeze they can show to be wildly inaccurate because it senses the change in light. Same as it senses the bullet across the top. Have used one a few time that we borrowed to check some loads but never really looked at the "sensor area". Just what I've read.

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and I will miss you every day.



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Yes - Reading the reviews on this one - It seems that if it's a bright sunny day,
a person should shade it and that'll make it work better.

So a cloudy day might be a good time to use it...

I think it detects the "shadow" when the bullet passes over...
And I think a chrony likes a consistent amount of light.
But I'm just guessing... (-:

I have a feeling I'll have to come up with something to mount it on.
I know a tri-pod works, but I can't imagine ever having a windless, perfectly still day around here!!

But, I'll try it out before I get too jacked up...

With the cheap stuff, you could get one that works great, one that doesn't work at all... :dunno:

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When we were using one here, we'd just put it on a regular camera tripod... was plenty stable.

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"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to stand by and do nothing."
Attributed to Edmund Burke, though it's source cannot be proven.

"Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything"
Alexander Hamilton

Sorry to see you go Dean. Never enough time and it makes
us all realize just what being mortal is. You have been a true friend to me
and I will miss you every day.



"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government
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