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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:17 am 
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Maybe try taking that charge down a couple tenths. Most of my .45s like to be just a tad under max.


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 Post subject: Re: JHP Is Not as Accurate as it used to be..
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:36 pm 
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jasonsch wrote:
And damn it - Ex & dudester - you guys aren't much help here!!! :D :neutral:


Eees my yob!

Seriously though, first batch I ever ran was berrys 115 gn 9mm through my C9. Had to slow them way down from desired
speed to stop them from tumbling. Worked fine at lower velocity. Try that for first fix AFTER what Walt said.
Slug the barrel

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:26 am 
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I only speak from experience brother lol :)

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So Dudester... did you end up getting a carbine? What's your opine?

Yep. I really really like it. Now I want another for Mrs. D.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 3:07 pm 
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Cool! I take it that Mrs D has shot yours and likes it?

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 Post subject: Re: JHP Is Not as Accurate as it used to be..
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:52 pm 
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Well guys, I did get around to cleaning my Beloved JHP this weekend.
It was dirty - but it's sure been a hell of a lot worse!!
And I don't believe the barrel had any lead built up in it...
But I'm not any kind of an expert here for sure!!

I did take a couple of pictures.
This is the "before"...

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And this is the "after"...

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If you look close, you can see what I think are the "chatter marks" from when Hi-Point
did their fine machine work on this barrel... :roll:

And the grooves were dirty and/or fouled, but not with lead.
I did use my pointy dental tool type pick thing and scratched
around in the grooves - and nothing seemed to be there..

I didn't pound a anything through the barrel yet, to Slug It.
But I did measure the muzzle end with a caliper and I'd say
it ain't wore out - not by a long shot!

I set a new bullet there on the muzzle and it wasn't going in
there without some considerable persuading...

I also measured the barrel with my caliper and it's smaller
than the bullet - for sure! I wish I'd wrote the #'s down - but I did not...

I also just thought of something! I have a couple bullets sitting there
that were some pride enhancing sqibs...
Those baby's should give me a pretty good idea of the size of the grooves and lands, I'd think. :dunno: Maybe not...

But I should decide to slug it, a plated lead bullet probably isn't the best thing to use, if I had to guess.. :(
I found this link:

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinSlug.htm

It shows how it's done - I'll have to find out if they make any 45 caliber fishing weight though...
If you fellers have an idea of something to use - I'm all ears!!

But I'm still a little stumped - why the 200gr plated bullets that have always been pretty darn accurate
didn't shoot worth a crap the last time I went shooting with them....

I'd like to take it out again soon, but it might be a little later...
We just got a foot of snow!!
And now the wind is starting to blow...

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:34 pm 
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Jason, try a small box of commercial .45 rounds. See if factory rounds are tumbling. If they aren't, then the barrel is likely fine.
And remember my experience with the Berrys, they worked fine as long as I kept the velocity down. If I pumped them up at all,
they tumbled... that was in my C9.

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"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to stand by and do nothing."
Attributed to Edmund Burke, though it's source cannot be proven.

"Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything"
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Sorry to see you go Dean. Never enough time and it makes
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and I will miss you every day.



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:35 pm 
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Oh, and great barrel shots!

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"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to stand by and do nothing."
Attributed to Edmund Burke, though it's source cannot be proven.

"Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything"
Alexander Hamilton

Sorry to see you go Dean. Never enough time and it makes
us all realize just what being mortal is. You have been a true friend to me
and I will miss you every day.



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jason. run to walmart and buy the 10$ box of federal aluminum. low velocity target ammo. had a buddy bring me his JHP last week. shoots only hand loads from it. bullets were tumbling and he thought the barrel was shot out of it. shot some of that federal aluminum that i keep stockpiled and it shot just fine. shot it into some blocks of styrofoam and the bullets werent key holing anymore. turns out he got a bad batch of boolits but thats another story. best of luck

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:12 am 
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I'll get a box of factory ammo with jacketed bullets and see if that is an improvement...


IMR 700-X .451" 1.225" 4.6gr 821 12,100 CUP 5.3gr 921 16,300 CUP

Above is the data I cobbed off the Hodgon site for a 200gr lead bullet...

I've been using 5 grains - right in the middle - and the 1st 3,000 bullets worked pretty darn good...

Maybe I SHOULD shoot my other pistols and see if they all have the same problem... :dunno: :whistle:

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Are they pure lead or alloyed? Do you KNOW that the brinell rating hasn't changed? etc...

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Attributed to Ex and he'll take credit for anything he can get!

"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to stand by and do nothing."
Attributed to Edmund Burke, though it's source cannot be proven.

"Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything"
Alexander Hamilton

Sorry to see you go Dean. Never enough time and it makes
us all realize just what being mortal is. You have been a true friend to me
and I will miss you every day.



"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government
from wasting the labors of the people under the pretence of taking care of
them."

Thomas Jefferson

Not having Windows on your computer is like
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