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 Post subject: CF380 RecoilSpring Guide Rod & Firing Pin SpringRetainer Cup
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:52 pm 
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Greetings All,
It's nice to be "here", no HP haters. :)

After looking online and handling 9mm, 40, 45 & 380ACP's of different manufacturers. Based on price, warranty, I liked the look & feel and the fact they're just down the road, I decided on the HP 380 ACP.
Mostly for target shooting with friends and "just-in-case". I had other handguns a long time ago, no semi's or auto's though.

OK, so I polished the feed ramp, reassembled the firearm and it shot fine.

This morning, I was poking around on the web and noticed videos had the recoil glide being put on either end of the spring.

I pulled-up the exploded parts view and while investigating the guide rod, I noticed the Firing Pin Spring Retainer Cup in the parts.
I swear my 380 didn't have that cup when I disassembled it.

#1 Guide Rod
Which is it, does it matter and is there a reason to assemble it different from the HP paperwork?

#2 Retainer Cup
So before I laugh at myself for spending hours going through everything on my workbench, the floor and garbage can, does anyone know if they still have that cup? I couldn't find a definitive answer online.

I hesitate to call HP until I know what other users experiences are.

TIA,
Dave


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 Post subject: Re: CF380 RecoilSpring Guide Rod & Firing Pin SpringRetainer Cup
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:08 pm 
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Some good questions DRK. Unfortunately I don't have the .380. C9 only and the .380 is much newer
so I'd hate to use mine as example and steer you wrong. I can tell you on the C9, mine is at the front
The similar guide rod is at the front on Glocks. Not that it means anything. I found one .380 teardown that
showed it on the rear. Then again I saw some come apart with nothing but the spring. Go figure.

Some one will be along that owns one and toss in their two cents!

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 Post subject: Re: CF380 RecoilSpring Guide Rod & Firing Pin SpringRetainer Cup
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:37 pm 
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Dave, sorry I can't give you a definitive answer. The closest thing I have to a CF-380 is an old Haskell JS45, sort of the precursor to the Hi-Point JHP-45. So, with my disclaimer in place, I would say the recoil spring guide rod should probably go oh the muzzle end of the recoil spring, as in the drawing. Is there a socket or something for it to fit into, on the inside of the slide, below the muzzle hole?

As to the firing pin spring cup....looks like if you need it and don't have it, the worst that could happen would be a light strike on the primer resulting in a late or no discharge. Not terribly bad at the range, but problematic in a defense situation.
If nobody has a definite answer soon, call mom. Have your serial number ready just in case there has been a change, it may help. If you're supposed to have one, they'll probably send one out to you post haste.

Good luck and let us know what you find out

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 Post subject: Re: CF380 RecoilSpring Guide Rod & Firing Pin SpringRetainer Cup
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:21 pm 
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Thanks for the replies.
I always keep multiple copies of documentation. I printed the "exploded view" from an online pdf file and have it on my workbench, leaving the original with the box.

I was putting the original box and paperwork away just now. I fully unfolded & opened the "Instruction Sheet" uh-oh
This version does not show the Firing Pin Spring Retainer Cup and (of course) has the recoil spring guide rod in front.

So problem solved, and now headed to the range.

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drk


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 Post subject: Re: CF380 RecoilSpring Guide Rod & Firing Pin SpringRetainer Cup
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:37 pm 
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You have the newer parts. They have not put those parts in a gun for a while.

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