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 Post subject: 2nd time at range was frustrating
PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:24 am 
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Took my new C9 to the range for the second time on Saturday. A bit frustrating. The pistol was failing to chamber a round with a fresh magazine. I would pull back and release and the slide would just stick in the open position. :groan: Several times I had to forcefully push the slide forward to chamber the first round. This happened with several different brands of ammo. Once a round was chambered however it fired without issue. :minigun: Perhaps I need to disassemble, clean, and freshly lube the pistol. dunno. Other than that the pistol continued to be very accurate out to 25 feet which is where I usually practice at.

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 Post subject: Re: 2nd time at range was frustrating
PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:40 am 
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Mornin idmtfirefighter,
Is the round hanging up some where? If so, there is two things to check.


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 Post subject: Re: 2nd time at range was frustrating
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Thanks hobbles...I'll give the mags a look see. barring that in the next day or so I'll take it down and do a good inspection, cleaning, and lube. who knows how long my pistol sat in the box on a back room shelf at Gander Mountain before I brought it home. I'll continue shooting and if the problem persists I'll give HP a call and see what they recommend.

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On mine, the rounds were hanging up on the brass as it tried to slide into the barrel. When it hangs up, pull the round and look at it for marks. Anything I can do to help, just let me know.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:17 pm 
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That is a common issue with these guns, The mags are junk.

Here was my solution, YMMV

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Doesn't tell ya much does it? All the pictures show is how the bullet moves into the chamber. The top of my mag has the mods done to it. The width of the lips are determined by the height the bullet sits in the mag but the numbers given are a good starting point. The trick is to not let the bullet nose too fast so that it stovepipes, not so slow that it jams. Some folks swear by polishing the feed ramp, I never have and mine after working on the mag for a while it cycles perfectly with the ammo I use. The feed ramp has so little to do with the actual feeding of the bullet it see no reason to risk ruining the gun by over cleaning the ramp profile. Nevertheless, the mag itself can vary in insertion height inside the magwell by quite a bit, so this variation needs to be dealt with by some means. I used the mag lips to vary the height the bullets actually sat at.

The other thing that needs to be addressed is the last round hold open (first two pictures). It can and does sometimes reach into the mag too far and inhibits the first round or two from chambering. Peer at it for a while and determine the best way to deal with that, I modified my mag with high-tech needle nosed pliers, a 3oz ball peen hammer, and a thermometer. :shock:

Well, didn't actually use the thermometer. :whistle:

I did file a very small amount off the lever though and racked the feedlips to the right side so the nose of the bullet has more room to get by the lever.

All said and done, it takes more time than energy. It's a good way to learn new skills, and if you do mess it up, there is a good chance it will be covered by warranty- if you ask nicely.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:55 pm 
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Is is many from the magazine, or just the first one or two from a full mag?

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 Post subject: Re: 2nd time at range was frustrating
PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:27 pm 
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hobbles...I inspected all my magazines (3) and they all seem to be rounded from the factory. I took the gun apart tonight...not as hard as I imagined and youtube was again helpful. I did not see anything clearly obvious that would give me my problems but it did offer me the chance to really clean and lube the interior. I also took a #10 surgical scalpel (perks of being in healthcare) to trim a bit of excess flash on the plastic pieces. Once cleaned and reassembled I loaded a mag and with extreme caution chambered a round, several times, without issue. I'll head back out to the range this week and see if it helped operationally. Thanks for the inputs all...If I have any more issues I'll let yah know.

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That's the thing about HiPoints, they cycle perfectly by hand more often than not, they screw up during the firing.

Now that you are familiar with the taking it apart if it makes spring scraping noises when hand cycling it just take a .22 brass brush in a drill and brush the pith out of the spring chamber in the slide. It is full of roughness and flash. Once that area is cleaned up it will rack easier and stay quiet doing it. Might need a couple of brushes before it's nice and clean or wrap some fine sandpaper around the brush couple of times.

This is my customizing in progress, unfortunately it's been in this state for over a year. It is MUCH more comfortable to shoot with the rounded grips. The rounded trigger guard is just personal preference, the shortened trigger end with a rounded tip is because it always pinched my fat finger and that was getting annoying, and all the parting lines were simply unacceptable to me. Hell, it's a $169 dollar gun, why not make it my own, nobody else has to like it. ;)
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