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 Post subject: Hi Point and Cabela's
PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 8:30 am 
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About the time Fritos bought his JHP I talked a long time shooting compadre into ordering two 45s from Cabela's to save the five dollars shipping. I'd pay him and we'd drive together saving the fuel. (An hour each way). 2 days after he placed the order, he received an email from Cabela's saying they were cancelling the order and refunding his money. He replied to the email asking for a rain check. ($129 is a rain check worthy price). They replied that they would not issue a rain check because the item in question has been discontinued. I laughed " Yea, discontinued until they get em back in stock".

That was 3 weeks ago. First the blow out price of $99 for the C9, then the fire sale price of $129 for the JHP, then the discontinuation notice. I remember Gander Mountain used to keep the less expensive handguns in the back so you'd have to ask to see one. My EAA Windicator was one the counter clerk had to retrieve from the back after a glare. The economy model Ruger 10/22 was another. Both times I left the store and made my purchase elsewhere. Is there not enough mark-up on budget priced guns? Do you need to treat the customer like you just asked their daughter to prom for wanting to see a gun that costs less?

If Cabela's is dropping the Hi Point handgun line with the hopes of trading the customer up to a higher ring at the register, let Gander Mountain be a case study for what happens when a retailer alienates an entire segment of the market.

Or perhaps they're discontinued until they get the next shipment...in which case :stupid:

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They are getting greedy. Not a lot of mark up on a Hi Point vs Say a Glock or a Kimber. Gun price snobs.

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I found out last weekend that I can't even buy a Hipoint in Minnesota anymore due to the "Melting Point Law". Looks like I'll remain Hipoint-less for the near future, I was looking forward to getting a carbine.


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It's hard to make sense of a state that has a comedic clown as it's state senator. Melting point laws do nothing except restrict access of firearm purchases to law abiding citizens. Stuart Smalley should stick to doing parodies of liberal left talkshow hosts.

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Is the Minnesota law for all firearms or just handguns?

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WTH is a melting point law?

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Cabela's is where I got mine for the $129. I'd never been to Cabela's before. The closest one is 20 miles away and not really in a part of the metro area that I ever go to. Generally, gun buying in OR is quick and easy and always the same; fill out the form, wait about 10-15 mins, get the gun, thank you kindly. From LGS, pawn shop, gun show or bigbox store, that's how it goes. So, that's what I expected at Cabela's, but that's not at all what I got. Without going into detail, I was treated like dirt and delayed for unknown reasons for about 45 minutes *after* the approval had already been received. The gun had been paid for online, so all they literally had to do was hand it to me over the counter. Instead, I saw it opened and all the contents removed and looked over/inspected by two of their clerks. When I asked why and what they were doing, no response. Anyway, I decided that was the first and last purchase I'd make there.


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Randy wrote:
WTH is a melting point law?


That is a bogus law states like kalifornia use to keep the cheaper handguns that are made out of pot metal instead of steel out of the state.... literally if the gun will melt under a certain temperature, it is put on a ban list.

They say they do this because these cheaper guns are used more in crimes, but it also prevents low income honest people from being able to purchase a firearm to defend their selves with.

Its a backdoor form of gun control.

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Jalapeno Fritos wrote:
Cabela's is where I got mine for the $129. I'd never been to Cabela's before. The closest one is 20 miles away and not really in a part of the metro area that I ever go to. Generally, gun buying in OR is quick and easy and always the same; fill out the form, wait about 10-15 mins, get the gun, thank you kindly. From LGS, pawn shop, gun show or bigbox store, that's how it goes. So, that's what I expected at Cabela's, but that's not at all what I got. Without going into detail, I was treated like dirt and delayed for unknown reasons for about 45 minutes *after* the approval had already been received. The gun had been paid for online, so all they literally had to do was hand it to me over the counter. Instead, I saw it opened and all the contents removed and looked over/inspected by two of their clerks. When I asked why and what they were doing, no response. Anyway, I decided that was the first and last purchase I'd make there.


Fancy places like Cabela's and Bass Pro look down on you if you aren't in there buying the top of the line S&W revolver or their most expensive AR in stock. They are not so much gun snobs as they are money snobs. JMO

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 Post subject: Re: Hi Point and Cabela's
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But the law overlooks one important factor it seems, the barrel is still made of carbon steel. The barrel is where the heat is generated. And everyone with 'common sense' knows that eight or ten rounds fired as fast as possible will not overheat a pistol. For those fools that are trying to overheat a pistol by slamming mag after mag through it, that seems to fall under the concept of 'more than normal usage'. Again- 'common sense' laws crafted by morons. :x

I guess when Hollyweird runs your state what more can you expect? :groan:

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 Post subject: Re: Hi Point and Cabela's
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Jalapeno Fritos wrote:
Cabela's is where I got mine for the $129. I'd never been to Cabela's before. The closest one is 20 miles away and not really in a part of the metro area that I ever go to. Generally, gun buying in OR is quick and easy and always the same; fill out the form, wait about 10-15 mins, get the gun, thank you kindly. From LGS, pawn shop, gun show or bigbox store, that's how it goes. So, that's what I expected at Cabela's, but that's not at all what I got. Without going into detail, I was treated like dirt and delayed for unknown reasons for about 45 minutes *after* the approval had already been received. The gun had been paid for online, so all they literally had to do was hand it to me over the counter. Instead, I saw it opened and all the contents removed and looked over/inspected by two of their clerks. When I asked why and what they were doing, no response. Anyway, I decided that was the first and last purchase I'd make there.


It's highly likely they've seen one before. As you said, they deal with top end brands mostly. There are two Cabelas within 2 hours of me. The big one in Owatanna MN, and a smaller one in across the Muddy in Wisc. I've never bought a firearm from the one in Mn. but the one in Wisc is where I first started my recent journey into firearms after many decades of going without.

I had NO clue what the new firearms laws were, the last time I had bought a gun was when I was in my early 20's. The clerks there were polite IIRC. They explained I could not buy a gun and take it home across state lines and I also needed a background check. I could pay for the gun, have it sent across the river to Iowa to a FFL holder and pick it up when it got there in a few days. I misunderstood and apparently thought they meant there was only one FFL on the banks of the river and I would have drive the two back one way to pick it up...yeah, I was pretty naive. I said no thanks and went home and started doing research on firearm ownership. And the rest is infamy. :whistle:

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Randy wrote:
But the law overlooks one important factor it seems, the barrel is still made of carbon steel. The barrel is where the heat is generated. And everyone with 'common sense' knows that eight or ten rounds fired as fast as possible will not overheat a pistol. For those fools that are trying to overheat a pistol by slamming mag after mag through it, that seems to fall under the concept of 'more than normal usage'. Again- 'common sense' laws crafted by morons. :x

I guess when Hollyweird runs your state what more can you expect? :groan:


Randy this is not about common sense or science or facts. This is about gun control. They figured out a way to ban many of the less expensive guns and they ran with it. Plain and simple.

That's like you know and I know the difference between a 10 rd mag and a 15 rd mag is insignificant, but tell that to a brainwashed liberal.

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YUP! I'm glad I'm a hermit now, I only deal with people in public occasionally and with nobody else unless I go into a convenience store. I have one friend I get to see once or twice a month. BOO-HOO for me.

The party bus people are a different story. Mostly snot nosed college aged kids learning that they know everything about everything. We all went through it. Nevertheless, I've been running into more of the liberal leaning snots recently. A kid two weekends ago told me that gender was irrelevant and same sex marriage only made sense. Yeah, that's how nature intended for species to procreate I told him. He said 'what does nature have to do with it' or something to that effect. :groan: :stupid:

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Randy wrote:
Yeah, that's how nature intended for species to procreate I told him. He said 'what does nature have to do with it' or something to that effect. :groan: :stupid:


Hopefully natural selection will breed him out of existence. Mother nature generally does a good job of that :party:

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The difference is we have laws that allow this unnatural perversion against nature to prosper. We even give them the right to have children by whatever means, because everyone has 'civil' rights. I don't disagree with civil rights by any means but these unnatural acts have been relegated to bedrooms for over two hundred years. Now they force themselves to be in the forefront despite them it being such a minority. Only in America can a minority rule the masses. Since it is normally a choice that is made by the ones that suffer from this mental illness I still don't understand why the same folks that were against it a decade ago are now in favor of it. It simply makes no sense. :dunno:

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