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 Post subject: Guns, Ammo and Reloading Questions/Opinions
PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:31 pm 
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I was getting ready to order some stuff, so I looked at what reloading components I have left.
I determined that I need some large rifle primers.
This is what I have left:

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And none of them is a full 100 primers.
Plus these primers are 20 years old!!

So, a while back I loaded up a 100 rounds for my 308 (with some of the above primers) to do some plinking with. (plinking is such a weird word...)
And when I went out and shot up these 100 rounds, a few of them had to be ejaculated and reloaded because they didn't fire the 1st time.
The ones in the picture below were ejaculated an run through my rifle several times, and would not fire - dud's...

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Anyway - it's obvious I need some fresh primers if I'm going to load up some "accurate" ammo!!

So one question I have is about this the brass in the above picture...
It says "SBS 08" on it and has that circle thing with a cross like design on it.
I assume the "08" means it was manufactured in 2008, but what do the other markings mean??

I also looked and I'm getting a little low on rifle powder...
I have an 8 pound jug of IMR 3031 and it's less than 1/2 full.
So I figured theres about 3-1/2 pounds left - or 24,500 grains.I have a 1,000 pieces of 223 brass and a 1,000 55 gr spire point bullets.
And figuring approximately 23 grains of powder times 1,000 rounds to reload = 23,000 grains of powder.
So I probably have enough 3031 to reload the 1,000 rounds of 223 for my AR.

I also have about 500 rounds of 308 I'd like to reload and that will take about 40 grains of 3031 powder.
500 x 40 = 20,000 grains of powder
So, II could reload my 500 rounds of 308 with the 3031 I have left.
Obviously - I don't have enough to reload them all!!

But, I do have this powder on hand too:

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This Winchester 760 powder is unopened and as old as the primers - 20 years old or so...

I kinda wondered - how many 20 year old unopened cans of gunpowder are around??
I thought it might be a bit of a novelty item - powder in the old metal can - but maybe not.
I suppose they sold millions of them!!

And if it ain't worth nothing as far as a novelty item...
Do you think this powder would still be good to use?

Another thing I wanted to ask about was this pistol.
It's a Polish P64 Pistol 9x18 Makarov

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What do you think these would sell for?
Just curious... (-:

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 Post subject: Re: Guns, Ammo and Reloading Questions/Opinions
PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:52 pm 
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$250 to $350 for the pistol and if it has box, condition, extra mag, etc...

Open one of the cans of the 760 powder and smell it... from a distance (6" or so) at first. Old powder tends to breakdown and will give off an acrid smell that can
be strong. Smelling it too close (if it is breaking down) can give you a snoot full of really nasty acid fumes. As a second check, you could dump the powder out of the can onto a piece of paper (so it's easy to pour back in) and with a light, inspect the inside of the can. Even kept dry, decomposing powder will eat the old metal cans from inside out and make them rust... if the powder is breaking down.

I agree that the duds you have are likely, old primers. If they are that old and you only had that many fail, you're doing good. Except for that dud just lost you the prize buck you had in your sights! ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Guns, Ammo and Reloading Questions/Opinions
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Yessir Ex - the pistol comes with 2 mags - I should of mentioned that!
And they say "Good" condition.
I found a place that has a bunch for sale and was thinking about buying 3 or 4 and reselling...
But that 9x18 caliber seemed a little weird - but ammo is available for it.

And I will do that with a can of that powder.
I know it's a little weird - but I like the way gunpowder smells...
Before and after - like when you open a can, and after the trigger is pulled!! (-:

And I wouldn't trust those primers for anything other than "plinking" for sure.
I need to get some more - I was going to order some - but the extra $30 "Hazmat" charge...
I can drive to Big City and buy them cheaper.

Plus where I was going to order them only sells 5,000 at a time...
With that many large rifle primers... It'd be 20 years before I could use them all!!!

And Thanks for the advice!! (-:

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If your powder hasn't been opened then it'll more than likely still be good, I see folks posting pics of old cans that they picked up at yard sales and it's still good.

9x18 pistols are pretty sweet especially if you reload for them, I've been contemplating picking one up but really trying to not add calibers right now. Classic Arms sells them right now for $230

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The circle with the cross means NATO standard ammo. Military brass. Good stuff but you may have to chamfer the primer pockets if its never been reloaded... they crimped the primer pockets on most of the military stuff.

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I had a couple Makarov pistols at one point, the Bulgarian was a fantastic shooter. They all got sold when I started consolidating calibers.

Ammo at the time was a little hard to find too and I didn't want to start reloading another caliber.


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Tehe. You said ejaculated

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