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 Post subject: Interesting development
PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:44 pm 
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My sister in law, who is anti-gun, (comes from living in England for 20 some years) has told my brother he is to take a concealed carry class this weekend and eventually get his own gun.
He wants to borrow a gun for the class, and while he pretty much knows his way around a gun, he probably hasn't pulled a trigger in 15 years.
I asked him what gun he wants to borrow, and he said "We have the same size hands, so whatever you think"
Now I know that's not going to work, so I thought I'd drag out a few and let him try them.
I thought about sending him a J frame revolver or something a little bigger, but I don't think he'd be happy with it.
Maybe I'll let him try one and drag out a S&W Shield 9 and my Taurus PT111G2, S&W Sigma, Glock 32 (converted to 9mm) and maybe a Bersa Thunder.
I've been trying to get him to come shooting with me for a long time, so I'm pretty excited :mrgreen:

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Good to hear! I don't know about up there but in Okla if you use a revolver or a derringer at the class you have to carry a revolver or derringer.. if you use a semi auto you can carry any of the three

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Here in Nebraska, you can qualify with either and carry whatever. :great:

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I'd be thinking either the Shield or the G32. Have him over to review and practice once or twice before he takes the class.

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I'd be thinking either the Shield or the G32. Have him over to review and practice once or twice before he takes the class.

I told him he was going to shoot with me before I loan out any guns.

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I like to teach how not to shoot yourself and others with a Bersa. Weighty enough to stay on target. Good sights for easy target acquisition. And...380 is just big enough to avoid anemic stopping power lectures. Come to think of it, I haven't had the Thunder out for a while. I've even considered buying another 'cause I like it so much. An OD green "combat" version keeps catching my eye. Since the student is already familiar with firearms, you might choose something else. However, when I'm instructing a noob it's always the Bersa.

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Ex_ISP wrote:
I'd be thinking either the Shield or the G32. Have him over to review and practice once or twice before he takes the class.

I gotta question or a concern about these striker-fired pistols with the little thingy lever on the trigger - I don't like'em.

For a concealed carry having cocked and loaded pistol that only needs the trigger touched to fired is flat out dangerous...
ESPECIALLY for a person that is just starting out.
And even when they aren't concealed these sum-bitches are dangerous!!
As we have all seen here - They are way too easy to have negligent discharge with - I don't like'em.

Now, If I was a cop or in a "danger place" where I could open carry and keep that easy-firing thing in a good holster - That'd be ok.
Which is why you see the cops carrying all the time.

So IMHO a nice SA like a Kel-Tec P3AT or a Taurus 738 TCP or a Beretta Pico is the type of gun for a beginner to carry.
I have never recommended a Glock and discouraged a few others from using a Glock.

Glocks are a great gun - I might even have one someday!! :great:
I'd use it for target practice like I do my nearly worn out JHP.

But it is way too easy to shoot yourself with the damn thing...

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 Post subject: Re: Interesting development
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Well guys, I let him pick which gun he wanted to use.
He was determined it would be a 9mm, so I laid out my Sigma, Glock, Shield, Taurus PT111 G2 and an older PT111. He picked them all up, looked at the sights and eventually chose the Taurus G2 which he said felt good.
I also loaned him my mag loader, he got his right thumb in a table saw a couple months ago and it's still kind of tender.
I had about 45 minutes to drill safety and shooting into him.
I went through the safety rules, grip stance, just the basics, and it's a good thing he's a quick learner.
His 1st 4 shots didn't even hit the paper, I told him to just push the trigger to the rear, straight back and concentrate on holding it steady.
Next few shots were about 3 inches or so low and left, but by the time we got to the 4th mag, he was hitting within an inch or 2 of the bullseye, and occasionally dead center.
I told him to dryfire it at least 100 times to get used to the trigger and get the muscle memory going so he wasn't anticipating or jerking the trigger.
He texted last night and said he'd passed, and I think he's pretty happy about it, and proud of himself.
Maybe I gained a shooting buddy :mrgreen:
He says he has to buy a gun now, and I wouldn't be surprised if he went with the Taurus, it's a good gun at a really good price.

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I like the Sigma but they are all good options.

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That's the one I used when I took my CCW 8 years ago, I love that gun.

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"I also loaned him my mag loader, he got his right thumb in a table saw a couple months ago and it's still kind of tender.

My dad cut and ripped miles of boards on his table saw. Then, one day while doing some woodworking he cracked open a beer. Fifteen minutes later he came to me with his hand wrapped in a blood soaked towel. On the way to the emergency room he kept saying "one beer is all it takes, one beer". He had cut thru the middle of the thumb and nail. I was 17 at the time and had never seen that much blood . From that day forward I never mixed alcohol with power tools, guns or motorcycles.

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The only drunk driving I do anymore is on the information super-highway...

I'm glad to hear he did so well Husker!!

Having you for a teacher and helping him out like you did - Well that is just really cool!! :thumb:
And sounds just like you. (-:

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jasonsch wrote:
The only drunk driving I do anymore is on the information super-highway...

I'm glad to hear he did so well Husker!!

Having you for a teacher and helping him out like you did - Well that is just really cool!! :thumb:
And sounds just like you. (-:

I really enjoy helping new shooters, so I feel kind of selfish when it's so much fun. :)
He's one of those guys that's good at pretty much anything he puts some effort into, and probably one of the smartest people I know.

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