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 Post subject: How I lightened and smoothed my C9 trigger
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:53 pm 
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Remember!!!!!
If you do this and mess it up, MOM (Hi-Point) will likely NOT help on this. It would
likely be considered a failed modification, not a broken or faulty part.
Proceed at your own risk!!!! YMMV Have faith that you can get these parts if you mess
them up.

Use caution in maintaining 90 degree faces on the area you will polish
in step 4. If you get this angle wrong, the two surfaces will have a tendancy
to slip off each other instead of working with each other. This too can be fixed
if you get it wrong, but rather safe than sorry.

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufacturers/Hi-Point-33293/ModelC9-43171.htm

The following steps WILL soften your trigger and remove MUCH of the friction
in the HP C9 (and other) pistols.

http://www.hi-pointfirearms.net/manuals/C-9_CF380.pdf

1. Remove slide
2. Remove right side grip panel.
Note. Inspect/find the place on your pistol where the triger assembly (part 18)
has a "step" cut in it. That "step" engages (part 11) the sear cam. Where the two parts
come together, there is a LOT of friction on the powder coat/paint.
3. Drive out the pin that your trigger pivots on and is held in place by.
4. Using a fine whetstone, slowly polish the notch on the trigger assembly bar
and on the sear cam where they meet. (I gently took mine down to bare metal and left
a mirror smooth surface by polishing with 2000 grit wet/dry)
Removal of this factory coating will change the way these parts mate by several thousanths,
and lighten the trigger.
5. Just ahead (towards the trigger) of the "step" in the trigger assembly bar is a place
where the inside of the right side grip panel rubs. This introduces much of the gritty feel
in the trigger. I used 2000 grit wet/dry sand paper to significantly smooth this friction area.
The photo below shows the newly polished, bright area instead of black powder coated.
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n532/exisp/testing/TriggerMod1.jpg
6. Re-assemble and enjoy!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:05 pm 
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I did this to my JCP too and you really have to watch your angles.

Don't ask how I know.


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 Post subject: Re: How I lightened and smoothed my C9 trigger
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:12 pm 
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So Tolly... after your, um, er, mishap, what did you do to correct your angle issue?

And YES, the angles are important! Must retain 90 degrees on your polish!

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"Is my HP my favorite gun? No... Is it the BEST value? Very likely. Will it work when you need it to go bang? I'd bet my life on it."
Attributed to Ex and he'll take credit for anything he can get!

"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to stand by and do nothing."
Attributed to Edmund Burke, though it's source cannot be proven.

"Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything"
Alexander Hamilton

Sorry to see you go Dean. Never enough time and it makes
us all realize just what being mortal is. You have been a true friend to me
and I will miss you every day.



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from wasting the labors of the people under the pretence of taking care of
them."

Thomas Jefferson

Not having Windows on your computer is like
not having bricks tied to your dogs collar.

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 Post subject: Re: How I lightened and smoothed my C9 trigger
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:26 am 
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Nice write up Ex!!
I just might think about having a look at doing this.

When I 1st joined up here at HPT, some fella said to just pull that trigger a whole bunch
times - work it and work it - and that would help "break it in" faster and kinda wear the
surfaces smooth and make for a smoother trigger - which it did. By the way I think that
was you're recommendation Ex!! I've shot around 3,000-3,500 through it as well.

The most noticeable thing with the trigger on my JHP is when I put a fresh mag in it and
rack it. That 1st round has a little more trigger travel - and seems to not be real consistent
as far as when it'll fire. I've scared the shit out of myself on that 1st round several time!!
I think I'm just taking up the slack and have a ways to go yet - and BANG!! Surprise!!
Your pistol has just fired!!

But, after that 1st round, the trigger is very consistent.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:49 am 
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Ex_ISP wrote:
So Tolly... after your, um, er, mishap, what did you do to correct your angle issue?

And YES, the angles are important! Must retain 90 degrees on your polish!

I called MoM and told them what I did and that I expected to pay for the parts, they sent them free anyway. Gotta love good customer service.

Jason, make sure you are pulling the slide all the way back, then let it fly home on its own. My JCP was doing the same thing till I made a concious effort to follow those steps.


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 Post subject: Re: How I lightened and smoothed my C9 trigger
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:46 am 
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Yep Tolly - I do that, and give the back of the slide a little push or whack to make sure she's
all the way forward. But I'll pay more attention and make sure the next time out shooting!!

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 Post subject: Re: Re: How I lightened and smoothed my C9 trigger
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srtolly wrote:
Ex_ISP wrote:
So Tolly... after your, um, er, mishap, what did you do to correct your angle issue?

And YES, the angles are important! Must retain 90 degrees on your polish!

I called MoM and told them what I did and that I expected to pay for the parts, they sent them free anyway. Gotta love good customer service.

Jason, make sure you are pulling the slide all the way back, then let it fly home on its own. My JCP was doing the same thing till I made a concious effort to follow those steps.



Wow! What a great company!!! So, have you again modded (with closer attention) yours? Mine worked out just right and is waaay smoother and lighter.
That dam trigger used to hurt my finger before too many rounds. Now, it's a pleasure to shoot!

_________________
"Is my HP my favorite gun? No... Is it the BEST value? Very likely. Will it work when you need it to go bang? I'd bet my life on it."
Attributed to Ex and he'll take credit for anything he can get!

"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to stand by and do nothing."
Attributed to Edmund Burke, though it's source cannot be proven.

"Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything"
Alexander Hamilton

Sorry to see you go Dean. Never enough time and it makes
us all realize just what being mortal is. You have been a true friend to me
and I will miss you every day.



"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government
from wasting the labors of the people under the pretence of taking care of
them."

Thomas Jefferson

Not having Windows on your computer is like
not having bricks tied to your dogs collar.

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 Post subject: Re: Re: How I lightened and smoothed my C9 trigger
PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:01 am 
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Ex_ISP wrote:
srtolly wrote:
Ex_ISP wrote:
So Tolly... after your, um, er, mishap, what did you do to correct your angle issue?

And YES, the angles are important! Must retain 90 degrees on your polish!

I called MoM and told them what I did and that I expected to pay for the parts, they sent them free anyway. Gotta love good customer service.

Jason, make sure you are pulling the slide all the way back, then let it fly home on its own. My JCP was doing the same thing till I made a concious effort to follow those steps.



Wow! What a great company!!! So, have you again modded (with closer attention) yours? Mine worked out just right and is waaay smoother and lighter.
That dam trigger used to hurt my finger before too many rounds. Now, it's a pleasure to shoot!


Tolly?

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"Is my HP my favorite gun? No... Is it the BEST value? Very likely. Will it work when you need it to go bang? I'd bet my life on it."
Attributed to Ex and he'll take credit for anything he can get!

"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to stand by and do nothing."
Attributed to Edmund Burke, though it's source cannot be proven.

"Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything"
Alexander Hamilton

Sorry to see you go Dean. Never enough time and it makes
us all realize just what being mortal is. You have been a true friend to me
and I will miss you every day.



"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government
from wasting the labors of the people under the pretence of taking care of
them."

Thomas Jefferson

Not having Windows on your computer is like
not having bricks tied to your dogs collar.

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Been busy. Yes, I did mod trigger again with much more attention to detail.uch nicer trigger now.


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 Post subject: Re: How I lightened and smoothed my C9 trigger
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Good to hear. I know it sure made a huge difference in the pull and smoothness of mine.

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"Is my HP my favorite gun? No... Is it the BEST value? Very likely. Will it work when you need it to go bang? I'd bet my life on it."
Attributed to Ex and he'll take credit for anything he can get!

"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to stand by and do nothing."
Attributed to Edmund Burke, though it's source cannot be proven.

"Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything"
Alexander Hamilton

Sorry to see you go Dean. Never enough time and it makes
us all realize just what being mortal is. You have been a true friend to me
and I will miss you every day.



"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government
from wasting the labors of the people under the pretence of taking care of
them."

Thomas Jefferson

Not having Windows on your computer is like
not having bricks tied to your dogs collar.

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