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 Post subject: Did full GP100 tear down and trigger job
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:21 pm 
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Ordered/received two India stones. One in 800 grit, one in 1200 grit. Both, tapered, 1/4" thick to knife, 1/2" wide and 6 inches long. Used oil with both. Polished to a mirror both single and double action points (and re-assembled by the Grace of God and lots of youtube ;) ). Single action wasn't bad before... silky now. Made HUGE difference on the double action!
Used four videos. One from Master Gunsmith "Yoda" of Impact Guns, two (assembly and dis-assembly) from the Ruger company, and another from a pretty good detailed youtuber.

All are listed below if anyone gets a hankerin' to do a GP100! I'd recommend watching all 4 before starting.

The first tow are the factory vids and apply to several models.
The third one is from Yoda, has less parts detail but lot's of knowledge on technique.
The fourth shows intricate detail on taking apart and putting back together the trigger mechanism itself.

Even if you don't have one of these, watch the Yoda vid. Very good.

Factory trigger removal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkyRDM7md9A

Factory trigger re-assembly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiWkxSgi4IA

Yoda from Impact Guns on stoning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuqticFg9q8

Detailed trigger group disassembly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0jFwUq_-VU

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 Post subject: Re: Did full GP100 tear down and trigger job
PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:10 pm 
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Took the GP out today for first time since I worked on it. Met a guy in the desert that
has a tuned S&W 686. We exchanged for a few rounds.

VERY happy to report my GP trigger equals his 686 trigger on every front!!!

WOOT!

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Thanks for the links. Don't have a GP100 but I would very much like one.


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 Post subject: Re: Did full GP100 tear down and trigger job
PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:56 am 
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I have a 4" blued one. Like it so much I decided to save the blueing on the cylinder and add a 6" stainless model. Now I only shoot the Stainless one and the 4" blue is the night stand one that's kept with .38spl in it.
Even the hardcore "Smith" only owners say the GP is truly a tank. I agree!

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 Post subject: Re: Did full GP100 tear down and trigger job
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Got the GP100 on a trigger tester today. Knew it was much smoother and that the pull was greatly reduced as a result of the polish job... no springs changed.

Was very pleased to see 7.5 lbs on DA, 2.3 lbs SA. Though I much enjoy the reduced pull, the greatest improvement was the consistency though the DA. No
"stacking" feeling on the spring any more. Had it out in the desert this Wed past... SA will sneak up on you!

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"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to stand by and do nothing."
Attributed to Edmund Burke, though it's source cannot be proven.

"Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything"
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Sorry to see you go Dean. Never enough time and it makes
us all realize just what being mortal is. You have been a true friend to me
and I will miss you every day.



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Ex is that your carry gun? Does it have a big profile? I have a little money burning a hole in my pocket.

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 Post subject: Re: Did full GP100 tear down and trigger job
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verkalak wrote:
Ex is that your carry gun? Does it have a big profile? I have a little money burning a hole in my pocket.


This is one of my target/play guns as it has a 6" barrel. If I were to carry this, I would be in the "counter culture, don't do me any favours" groups.

When I carry, it is my G29 with a load profile that suits my environment as the 10mm can be on the "rash' side of the power factor.

This was my first endeavour into revolver trigger work and with the previous videos, it was very simplistic. This GP (I now own two) is an
amazing piece. Truly a tank, and yet now, a surgical instrument. As mentioned, the SA is now extremely soft and crisp. i would not want it ANY lighter
as it already sneaks up on you... I would not let an in-experienced shooter even try it without full disclosure and several dry firings to appreciate it's SA trigger.

If you have some extra bucks, I HIGHLY recommend you look for and acquire a GP!!! Get a stainless model and any mileage can be made invisible by a light sending with 800
grit to remove any cylinder drag line. I own two and would not part with either! My 4" blued is in the nightstand with 38spl for safety. The 6" SS is the range toy and I so enjoy it.

Even the HARDCORE S&W fanatics say that the GP series are the "rocks/tanks" of the .357 world.

I could go on about these two that I own for hours.

The 4" blued is 90% NRA perfect so I don't shoot it, hence the 6" SS. I got the 4" from my Dad and it already had a pro $200 trigger job. With the work I showed earlier in this post, the
SS 6" is 99.999% as nice a trigger now. The last 1% I will not disclose except by PM, and someone could over do it and get dangerous or non-functional.

I think I mentioned I had also tuned my 1911 trigger and now, the GPs and the 1911 are my favs, in that order.

The vids on the GPs are VERY good both for detail and technique. I think the original post should be stickyed just for the stoning/polishing info and that we should have a new
topic just for gunsmithing techniques!!!!! A place to post these things found/easy/important to performance!

But Verk, again, in answer to your question, I recommend .357/GP100s for three reasons. 1. They are tanks!! 2. They are dual purpose in both .38spl and .357 mag to ANY degree. 3. They are VERY easy to tune to be better than the real expensive S&Ws like the 686..

Amp, Walt, Husk, somebody, let's sticky this thread in a new "gunsmithing" folder. We'll be adding more in the future.

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Sorry to see you go Dean. Never enough time and it makes
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and I will miss you every day.



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I agree with the sticky.


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I have a GP100 4" SS.

Thanks for the links.


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barnabus wrote:
I have a GP100 4" SS.

Thanks for the links.


You are very welcome!

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"Is my HP my favorite gun? No... Is it the BEST value? Very likely. Will it work when you need it to go bang? I'd bet my life on it."
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Sorry to see you go Dean. Never enough time and it makes
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Help me remember tomorrow and we will start a new gunsmithing folder and put this thread in it....

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Walt, just because I suspect you are asleep now, Make a gunsmithing section tomorrow when you awake!! ;)

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Attributed to Ex and he'll take credit for anything he can get!

"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to stand by and do nothing."
Attributed to Edmund Burke, though it's source cannot be proven.

"Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything"
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Sorry to see you go Dean. Never enough time and it makes
us all realize just what being mortal is. You have been a true friend to me
and I will miss you every day.



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 Post subject: Re: Did full GP100 tear down and trigger job
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waltham41 wrote:
Help me remember tomorrow and we will start a new gunsmithing folder and put this thread in it....


Reminder... ;)

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"Is my HP my favorite gun? No... Is it the BEST value? Very likely. Will it work when you need it to go bang? I'd bet my life on it."
Attributed to Ex and he'll take credit for anything he can get!

"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to stand by and do nothing."
Attributed to Edmund Burke, though it's source cannot be proven.

"Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything"
Alexander Hamilton

Sorry to see you go Dean. Never enough time and it makes
us all realize just what being mortal is. You have been a true friend to me
and I will miss you every day.



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 Post subject: Re: Did full GP100 tear down and trigger job
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I know, I know, it's an old thread, but I had to comment anyway. I just can't help myself when it involves a DA or SA wheel gun tune.

I love a nicely tuned revolver, to me it is a major part of the shooting experience one expects from a revolver, well at least I know I do. When it concerns triggers, wheel guns fit into a similar category as a bolt gun. Crisp, clean breaking SA is an absolute necessity to even gain my initial interest in a revolver, and a smooth clean DA pull is just as vital.

I have a 66 that breaks at 1.5 lbs., which is a little light for most folks. I've gotten all kinds of grief from the experts, that trigger is going to disappear on you, and all your going to have left is a DA revolver, that was a good 10 years ago and thousands of lock and pulls and rounds fired later. I didn't have to lighten the springs at all, like Ex, all I did was a nice polishing job on the lock work. DA is heavy, but I'm not a big fan of having to use Federal primers just so I can get consistent ignition. It's a silky smooth 8 lb. DA pull, good enough for me, and makes for a fine shooting experience.

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