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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:30 pm 
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I'm one of those who believe that a helmet is a great idea, and always wore one myself. I've been saved a few bumps on the old noggin in that manner. I have two friends who had cars pull out in front of them that sent them flying headfirst onto the pavement, in both cases the helmets were totaled but the brain pan unscathed...not so the rest of their body but t-boning a car will do that to your legs as you smash into the bike's handlebars and dash.

If you were north St. Louis, you're very lucky to not be there now, a large part of the black-on-black homicides are taking place there, the Goodfellow/Natural Bridge Road area is the highest. Breaking records this year, right around 200 for the year, only 10 were white and all the suspects were black.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:50 pm 
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I understand the feeling of those not wanting to be "restricted" by being required to wear a helmet, but I also understand the requirement of having to wear a helmet and it providing more protection to the wearer in case of an incident.

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I know it sounds flippant but I always rode aware. I guess I was one of the really lucky ones, only had one near miss left turner that I can vividly remember anyway. Regardless, I hated worrying about the staying alive part as much as I enjoyed the cool head, no sore shoulder/neck muscles part when I didn't wear one. Much the same as I still don't wear a seat-belt unless I see a cop. It is NOT the governments job to protect me from myself, it is their job to protect our borders and to keep bad guys at bay. Besides, the real reason they enact these goofy laws is to protect the insurance companies who are huge lobbyists. I try to do my part in not promoting a nanny state. A rebel without a cause I guess...

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If you were north St. Louis, you're very lucky to not be there now, a large part of the black-on-black homicides are taking place there, the Goodfellow/Natural Bridge Road area is the highest. Breaking records this year, right around 200 for the year, only 10 were white and all the suspects were black.


And yet the BLM folks call folks racist for stating facts. Go figure...

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Facts have no place in a discussion it appears.

Randy, if you get a sore neck from wearing a helmet than you need to pick a better quality helmet is all that I have to offer. I wear a full-face one with a chin bar that unlocks and raises up so that I can put it on without removing my glasses, lol. Way back when I started to ride I wanted to be "cool" like other kids and not wear a helmet, but quickly found out that it was not to be for me...once I got up past about 30mph, my eyes would water profusely from the wind, effectively blinding (and dehydrating!) me. At first I went with a standard open face helmet with a shield but that wasn't conducive to cold weather riding, it seemed to channel the cold air directly down my jacket. After trying my first full-face one I settled on that style.

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I took one hell of a spill on a street bike when I was 19 and fully endorse wearing a helmet. Can't blame anyone else for the wreck but myself though. We were out on one of the many loop roads in Newport, NC doing some over the speed limit riding and I was fully committed to my line in a sharp curve when a dumptruck pulled in to the road from a blind driveway. I could either eat the driver's side of the truck or straighten up and take my chances in the field. I ended up planting the front end of the bike in to the drainage ditch and cartwheeling out in to the field. I like to joke that I rode in to the field wearing a full set of riding leathers and walked out wearing one boot and my helmet. It's actually not far from the truth. The two guys who were with me opted to eat the truck. One tried to swerve and hit the front of the truck and ate the hood, the other guy laid his bike down and ate the dump bed and frame as he tried to slide under. Bumps, bruises, sore, concussions all around, but no broken bones. Just 3 wrecked bikes and 2 destroyed helmets. I still say that if I had been able to clear the ditch I would have been able to ride it out, but I didn't. C'est la vie.

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The way I look at it is, that who ever is willing to not wear a helmet for whatever reason and is willing to take the risk of leaving their family with a possible "vegetable" due to an accident and is willing to have their family to take care of them and deal with until said "vegetable" succumbs to the "vegetable's" end of life is not very considererate. But, hey, its all on them!

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Yep... we makes our choices and lives with the consequences.

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When I was running a tow service out in california with my father-in-law, one night we worked a wreck where a kid had taken the inner styrofoam liner out of his cheap non-DOT rated helmet and put it on his passenger, then wore the helmet shell himself. A quick glance from a cop wouldn't get them pulled over as it appeared that they were both wearing helmets. Lady pulled out in front of him in a car then immediately hit the brakes to make a left turn, they rammed into the back of her car and went sailing. Kid with the helmet shell died, one wearing the liner lived.

The very first time I ever rode a real motorcycle on the street, my brother had left his Honda 450 at the house in Mom and Dad's garage as he had just moved into a place that didn't have one. One summer weekend when the folks were gone, I decided to take it out for a spin. Two blocks down the street, then four blocks over to the city swimming pool where a lady pulled out in front of me. Laid the bike down as the other choices were a huge oak tree or a concrete storm drain. Bike came to rest just under the edge of the car, bounced my head off the pavement a few times during the slide. However, I had also "borrowed" the helmet that he had left with the bike. I was more worried that the bike was messed up then myself, was carefully inspecting it while cussing the driver of the car out. My brother had built some crash bars for it out of square tubing, and luckily they had done their job, nothing at all was scarred or scraped up other than the side of the left crash bar. I shakily rode it home, grabbed some sandpaper and black spray paint and touched up the bar.

Then I hopped on it and rode it all over town for about four hours, topped off the tank and parked it about an hour before the folks got home.

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When I was running a tow service out in california with my father-in-law, one night we worked a wreck where a kid had taken the inner styrofoam liner out of his cheap non-DOT rated helmet and put it on his passenger, then wore the helmet shell himself. A quick glance from a cop wouldn't get them pulled over as it appeared that they were both wearing helmets. Lady pulled out in front of him in a car then immediately hit the brakes to make a left turn, they rammed into the back of her car and went sailing. Kid with the helmet shell died, one wearing the liner lived.

The very first time I ever rode a real motorcycle on the street, my brother had left his Honda 450 at the house in Mom and Dad's garage as he had just moved into a place that didn't have one. One summer weekend when the folks were gone, I decided to take it out for a spin. Two blocks down the street, then four blocks over to the city swimming pool where a lady pulled out in front of me. Laid the bike down as the other choices were a huge oak tree or a concrete storm drain. Bike came to rest just under the edge of the car, bounced my head off the pavement a few times during the slide. However, I had also "borrowed" the helmet that he had left with the bike. I was more worried that the bike was messed up then myself, was carefully inspecting it while cussing the driver of the car out. My brother had built some crash bars for it out of square tubing, and luckily they had done their job, nothing at all was scarred or scraped up other than the side of the left crash bar. I shakily rode it home, grabbed some sandpaper and black spray paint and touched up the bar.

Then I hopped on it and rode it all over town for about four hours, topped off the tank and parked it about an hour before the folks got home.


A guy I knew back in Raleigh, NC wore nothing but those skull cap helmets. Part of a 1% type MC. He couldn't find his helmet one day and grabbed his kid's full face shield. Night time ride home and he hit a deer then landed head first in a culvert. Full face shield saved his life and that's the only thing he wears to this day.

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I went full face after catching a June bug in the throat at 75mph...

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mogunner wrote:
I went full face after catching a June bug in the throat at 75mph...


Yowsa!!! Early 20's I was on the freeway (sans helmet) doing about 70 and caught a bumblebee in the
forehead. Just about knocked me out! Didn't get stung but just the impact was a lot.

Doesn't take much weight at speed to get your attention!

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Rain can be quite painful as well.

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Try a pheasant to the chest at 20 mph. It was just after a sharp 90* curve. I am still not sure how I stayed on the bike but I had bruises all over. Any faster and I believe the bird would have been driving the bike and I would have been on the pavement. And, yes, I had a full face helmet on.

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It's gone from, "hey check out this nifty trigger guard" to "stuff that plowed in to us while riding motorcycles."

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