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 Post subject: Grass Fire - the New Spectator Sport
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:02 pm 
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When I was living in my new Townhouse (rowhome) in a suburb of Lake Ridge, VA in the latter part of the last Century, my neighbor came by while I was in the backyard trimming the hedges and told me to join him in watching the Elementary School burn down.

Someone's irresponsible kids were playing with matches in the field behind the school and started the field on fire. The dry grasses were about 3 feet tall and willowy in the light breezes.

A gathering of about thirty of my neighbors were watching the grasses burning, and talking about what they should do...

I immediately dashed back into my house and grabbed my old peacoat out of the hall closet, ran to the front faucet and soaked the woolen coat with water. I then ran back to the field to take on the grass fire, yelling "Call the Fire Department!"

When I arrived I discovered that the wind had picked up and a 'Dragon's Head' was forming in the direction of the nearby rowhomes (townhouses) so, I launched my attack there.

As I fought the blaze single handed, my neighbors (now numbering about fifty) continued to watch the proceedings...

I was losing ground as I beat down one section, leapt through the flames to beat down another section, the flames were roaring higher and higher, the smoke billowing in circles and limiting my vision and air.

The wind had driven the fire into starting TWO 'Dragon's Heads' and I was nearly out of energy when I inhaled a lungful of ash and smoke!

I dropped to the ground, hacking and coughing, black mucus covering my face and chin as I felt that all was lost...

When a clear plastic mask appeared on my face and cold wonderful oxygen flowed into my body. After about ten gulps, I was able to breathe again! The Lake Ridge Volunteer Fire Department had arrived!

The Fire Chief directed his crew into battle with the fire and in short order, extinguished the blaze.

He then chastised the nearly 100 neighbors for their non-participation in assisting me to put out the fire, declaring that they owed me their gratitude for saving their properties...

Later, after I had cleaned up and thanked the EMT's for their timely arrival and the Chief and his men and women for putting out the fire, I asked my next door neighbor why he hadn't helped.

He said, "I was rooted to the ground and couldn't move. Besides, that's what the Fire Department is for..."

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 Post subject: Re: Grass Fire - the New Spectator Sport
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:19 pm 
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Brutal dude! ;) Hopefully not a true story... if so, the onlookers should be beaten with cats-o-nine!

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 Post subject: Re: Grass Fire - the New Spectator Sport
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:59 pm 
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Oh, yeah. This IS a true story.

It happened back in 1985 or '86.

More fun than I can describe.

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 Post subject: Re: Grass Fire - the New Spectator Sport
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" Besides, that's what the Fire Department is for..."

Union town? ;)

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"Is my HP my favorite gun? No... Is it the BEST value? Very likely. Will it work when you need it to go bang? I'd bet my life on it."
Attributed to Ex and he'll take credit for anything he can get!

"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to stand by and do nothing."
Attributed to Edmund Burke, though it's source cannot be proven.

"Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything"
Alexander Hamilton

Sorry to see you go Dean. Never enough time and it makes
us all realize just what being mortal is. You have been a true friend to me
and I will miss you every day.



"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government
from wasting the labors of the people under the pretence of taking care of
them."

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Not having Windows on your computer is like
not having bricks tied to your dogs collar.

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The shin bone is a device for finding furniture in a dark room.

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 Post subject: Re: Grass Fire - the New Spectator Sport
PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:06 pm 
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Naw, I don't think that had anything to do with it...

More because of the attitude that the 'government is supposed to take care of him (them)'...

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Too bad people have the tendency to get like that.

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"Is my HP my favorite gun? No... Is it the BEST value? Very likely. Will it work when you need it to go bang? I'd bet my life on it."
Attributed to Ex and he'll take credit for anything he can get!

"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to stand by and do nothing."
Attributed to Edmund Burke, though it's source cannot be proven.

"Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything"
Alexander Hamilton

Sorry to see you go Dean. Never enough time and it makes
us all realize just what being mortal is. You have been a true friend to me
and I will miss you every day.



"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government
from wasting the labors of the people under the pretence of taking care of
them."

Thomas Jefferson

Not having Windows on your computer is like
not having bricks tied to your dogs collar.

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The shin bone is a device for finding furniture in a dark room.

If the mentally deficient are not allowed to own guns then why should they be allowed to make gun laws?


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That shows what has happened to folks. I remember a sense of community and folks helped other folks because it was right. The fact they didn't even call the fire department till you told them to amazes me.


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 Post subject: Re: Grass Fire - the New Spectator Sport
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This is why, as a Safety Officer and former Captain in an Assistant Chief billet of my fire department, I took the time to drive the district every day. Now, the current Chief Officers do the same. I personally got a huge jump on 2 structure fires because of it. One was a firebombing I witnessed at 3am when I went for a drive because I couldn't sleep, and the other was a abandoned factory that mysteriously caught fire in the middle of the day behind locked fences with zero utilities even running to the building. We found a meth lab and several burner phones in the basement after we put it out. The meth lab wasn't even the point of origin.

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 Post subject: Re: Grass Fire - the New Spectator Sport
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I'd bet the lab didn’t do anything to discourage the fire once it was going!

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"Is my HP my favorite gun? No... Is it the BEST value? Very likely. Will it work when you need it to go bang? I'd bet my life on it."
Attributed to Ex and he'll take credit for anything he can get!

"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to stand by and do nothing."
Attributed to Edmund Burke, though it's source cannot be proven.

"Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything"
Alexander Hamilton

Sorry to see you go Dean. Never enough time and it makes
us all realize just what being mortal is. You have been a true friend to me
and I will miss you every day.



"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government
from wasting the labors of the people under the pretence of taking care of
them."

Thomas Jefferson

Not having Windows on your computer is like
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 Post subject: Re: Grass Fire - the New Spectator Sport
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We THINK someone was doing a shake and bake in the loading dock to juice up while the batch in the basement was cooking. It was the same day the earthquake hit all up and down the east coast a couple of years ago. It actually happened shortly afterwards as a matter of fact. Again, we THINK the earthquake scared the shizzy out of the cooks and they dropped the shake and bake and it caused the fire. We found a melted cellphone, 1-liter bottles, and evidence of accelerant burn patterns near the point of origin in the loading docks.

Because we got there so quickly the damage was held to the loading docks and didn't spread to the main factory which is 4 floors of heavy timber construction soaked in oil for a preservative.

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Thanks Rach! To you guys and all our servicemen!!!

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"Is my HP my favorite gun? No... Is it the BEST value? Very likely. Will it work when you need it to go bang? I'd bet my life on it."
Attributed to Ex and he'll take credit for anything he can get!

"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to stand by and do nothing."
Attributed to Edmund Burke, though it's source cannot be proven.

"Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything"
Alexander Hamilton

Sorry to see you go Dean. Never enough time and it makes
us all realize just what being mortal is. You have been a true friend to me
and I will miss you every day.



"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government
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them."

Thomas Jefferson

Not having Windows on your computer is like
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 Post subject: Re: Grass Fire - the New Spectator Sport
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Fought many brush fires on my own property over the years but nothing like that. Three foot tall dry grass is a hard fight to win in any breeze at all. In about the same time period of the late century my wife decided to burn some weeds near the pasture in the late fall after a dry summer. The pasture grass was deep and thick. The breeze was westerly and what seemed reasonable so the house and barns were in no danger. Nevertheless, about 2-1/2 acres went up in roughly five minutes, set two trees ablaze, and got way to near the ready to harvest corn field of the neighbors (about five feet) down the road about 1100feet. To say there wasn't any sweating would be a lie, for many different reasons. We did have to call the fire dept. to come put the trees out (old hollow 3 foot diameter maple trees with a pithy interior). I have come to learn that fighting grass fires is almost pointless unless water is used or the fire is rather tame to start with. If the flames are six feet tall or higher the fight is that much harder due to the heat. Now I either fill my 35 gallon lawn sprayer or at least a hand held sprayer with water to keep close by and I don't tackle the fire head on but try to stomp a fire line down in the grass. Compacted dead grass still burns, just not nearly as fast.

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 Post subject: Re: Grass Fire - the New Spectator Sport
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Now, about the entitled, lazy, worthless spectators.... DUH? It's the fire departments job but nobody called the fire dept? :thinkin: Can you say community arson... :twisted: Being a good Samaritan today means someone else will do it? :huh:

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”If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.” -James Madison
It's gettin close boys. The time is near.

The greatest RE-productive force is human selfishness (Say NO! to population growth!).

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When we do good, nobody remembers, when we do bad, nobody forgets. --unknown

Just because you are unnatural, bizarre, bring problems on yourself, and don't fit in does not mean I dislike you...well, yeah it does

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We recently had one that was started by a train braking for the lower speed limit through town. It ignited random brush beside the tracks in a mile long swath along a hillside with residences and a High School directly in the direction of the fire's travel. It took 2 days and 3 dozers cutting fire breaks on the ridge with 20 fire departments bringing around 175 guys and maybe 50 apparatus to put it out. Most of it was 3+ man teams with hand tools and indian tanks crawling the hillside putting out what the tenders and brush trucks couldn't hit with their hand lines. It was more a cliff than it was a hillside. Had to be a 60+ degree hillside full of dead brush and rotten trees. I spent 8 hours in it before I got rotated out when my blood pressure spiked and wasn't recovering fast enough to make the medic happy. They didn't want me having another heart attack.

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Compact the grass, hunh...?

Wish I had known that way back then!

Thanks for the tip should this occur in the future.

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