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 Post subject: Re: My adventures in turd polishing.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:53 pm 
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I've had great luck with the factory mags.
I got another one last week...
I have 4 for my JHP now!!

ynot - At least you're using that "bad case of OCD" for good!!

Darn that pistol looks nice... :great:

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 Post subject: Re: My adventures in turd polishing.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:54 pm 
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If the factory mags are as good as it gets I'm in trouble! This is where all the trouble started with my C9. I had two mags , one an 8 round and one a 10 round, and neither would feed reliably. Just as an experiment I took the spring out of the 10 round and installed it in the 8 round body and to my surprise 8 rounds still fit in the mag and now it feeds perfectly. I bought two more factory 8 round mags and have had no problems with either of them however the spring pressure feels heavier in them and they both have Hi Point stampings on the body that the first two mags didn't have. I assume the later mags must have a revised spring.
As for the large frame Hi Points I have a JHP and two factory mags and have never had a single malfunction from that pistol and as such it still looks exactly like it came from the factory. No customisation on that one at all.


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 Post subject: Re: My adventures in turd polishing.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:00 pm 
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Have you fired yet with the new muzzle crown and dyd you see an improvement? I crowned my C9 and it definitely got tighter groups, even enough to overcome my advanced Parkinsons shakes! LMAO!
Kidding on my Parkinsons. But pattern did improve, not that it was bad before. What have you seen???

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 Post subject: Re: My adventures in turd polishing.
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As a matter of fact I took it to the range tonight. This was its second outing since re crowning the barrel. The first outing I didn't notice any improvement but the trigger was still not pulling smoothly. Tonight was the first trip to the range since I figured out my trigger issue and groups were much better but I don't think the crown had anything to do with the improvement, it was all the smoother trigger. The target crown looks so much nicer though.


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 Post subject: Re: My adventures in turd polishing.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:55 am 
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Great news!!!

photos of difference?

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 Post subject: Re: My adventures in turd polishing.
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Since Ex did that post on recrowning his C9, It sure got me thinking about it.

I read a seriously long magazine article about accuracy and crowns with rifles.

And (if I remember right!!) Recrowning the rifle they were testing helped accuracy a lot!!

I believe a lathe is the best and correct way to do it... But I'd have to remove the barrel on my JHP.
But I believe it is possible to to clamp that baby in a Bridgeport Mill nice and square and put a nice chamfer on the end of the barrel.

:D "Chamfer" - "Crown" - Same thing ain't it??? :dunno:

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You asked for it so here goes. Yes a crown is just a chamfer but a chamfer that needs to be concentric to the bore. I had my barrel off and have access to several lathes but I did not use them because there was no easy way to hold the barrel. The chamber/mounting lugs are pressed onto the barrel and would not fit inside a 5C collet so it would need to be put into a standard lathe chuck. The barrel is too short for the chamber to extend past the rear of the chuck jaws so a split bushing would have to be made to hold the barrel in the chuck. Now here is where it gets technical. The outside of the barrel is not round, why I don't know but its kind of triangularly roundish. This means that you would need to use a four jaw chuck so you could centre up the bore so it would be concentric to the crown you are about to cut. All this setup work will take at least an hour and I am not that patient.
Setting it up in a Bridgeport is possible but then your crown angle is limited to whatever cutter you have. A 90 degree spot drill would work but that would produce a very deep crown. A 142 degree spot drill would work nicely giving you a 19 degree crown but I was stuck on that 11 degrees (which would be 152 degrees included angle). The military did a test on crown angle and determined 11 degrees to be optimal although they determined that the angle was less important than it being absolutely concentric to the bore.
So for a couple of bucks I bought the crowning tool from Brownells. It has a pilot on the end to keep the tool perpendicular and concentric to the bore. It only took me about 15 minutes to cut the crown and as a bonus I can use the same tool on a couple of other projects simply by changing the pilot.
There you have it. I hope I didn't get too technical but because this is what I do every day I couldn't just say "It won't work" without explaining why it won't work.


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Here is one of the groups I shot. This was at 21 feet and shot freehand so this is probably more representative of my marginal skill rather than the guns capability. This is about the same size group I shoot with my 2" barrel .38 special so I'm pretty sure that both guns perform better than I do.
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Pretty good pattern! All center mass shots! Try shooting off a bench and see if the pattern tightens up!

BTW, love the posts you are making!!! Good writing, good photos. All, useful info!!! Thank you!!! ;)

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Attributed to Ex and he'll take credit for anything he can get!

"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to stand by and do nothing."
Attributed to Edmund Burke, though it's source cannot be proven.

"Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything"
Alexander Hamilton

Sorry to see you go Dean. Never enough time and it makes
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and I will miss you every day.



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